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Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by pgeorgi »

mattmanser wrote: post #282
krastanov wrote: post #136

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You are confusing EU regulations and EU directives. One is automatically binding. Read these two pages. They are fairly clear, contain references to primary sources, and disagree with your claims: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-making-process/types-eu-la... https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=LEGISSUM... Article 288 Treaty on Functioning of the EU (ex Article 249 TEC) To exercise the Union's compet…

"Shall adopt" means they have to make local laws. All you're doing is highlighting the grandparent's point. The grandparent is right and you're wrong. Also, be very wary about quoting sources that end in a domain .EU, they're obviously biased.

If with "biased" you mean that they (europa.eu) are the official online resource which publishes the treaties in question, verbatim, you are correct. It's an unusual use of terminology, though.

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Post by iamacyborg »

fcanela wrote: post #268
tobylane wrote: post #224

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English common law is the basis for the American and Irish systems. Continental European countries, including Malta, are different.

Cyprus is part of the EU and have the same law system (they were a British colony)

The sabre rattling between Turkey and Greece likely makes Cyprus fairly unattractive for large American corporates, however.

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by Y_Y »

ido wrote: post #279
123pie123 wrote: post #232

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I'm from the UK and whilst working with a handful of dutch, I was blown away not only by their extremely good english but also their ability to understand and the subitle aspects of english - eg comedy/ sarcasium/ passive aggresstion etc..

Dutch is probably the closest language to English that isn’t a dialect of English.

That's an important point. Note that depending on definitions you might say (West) Frisian of Lowlands Scots claims this title.

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by krastanov »

mattmanser wrote: post #282
krastanov wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are confusing EU regulations and EU directives. One is automatically binding. Read these two pages. They are fairly clear, contain references to primary sources, and disagree with your claims: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-making-process/types-eu-la... https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=LEGISSUM... Article 288 Treaty on Functioning of the EU (ex Article 249 TEC) To exercise the Union's compet…

"Shall adopt" means they have to make local laws. All you're doing is highlighting the grandparent's point. The grandparent is right and you're wrong. Also, be very wary about quoting sources that end in a domain .EU, they're obviously biased.

This is some pretty silly linguistic gymnastics.

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by jan_Inkepa »

microtonal wrote: post #274
ithkuil wrote: post #230

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There are some workers that would relocate with the whole family. This means the significant other has to find a job and fit it, kids have to go to school. While many countries have a very decent proficiency in English, you're whole family must fully invest in learning the local language. And that in addition to using English in the office of at least one of the adults (since many big companies use English officially…

There are some workers that would relocate with the whole family. This means the significant other has to find a job and fit it, kids have to go to school. Like e.g. Berlin, the large Dutch cities are very much internationally-oriented and usually it's not problem to get a job and integrate if you don't speak Dutch. Sometimes the issue is quite the opposite -- my wife wanted to learn Dutch, but people would just swit…

Living in Berlin if you don't speak German you are limited in employment, in healthcare, and possibly socially depending on your bubbles. Short time you may not notice it but long term you are probably best learning German. A friend of mine is struggling to find a job right now and lack of German is a big problem for them. Another friend started dating someone who's not herself in the anglophone tech bubble and can't hang out with her friends. Have translated for a friend in hospital for a operation.

Some people can deal with this, even long term, but it's definitely not for me.

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by ericmay »

Talanes wrote: post #85
ericmay wrote: post #59

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> Healthcare (in civilized countries) When you say things like this, you just push back the goal of national healthcare in America. Stop. I want national healthcare and the only way to get it involves not pissing people off by calling them uncivilized.

But pissing people off by jumping in to police their speech is better?

Yes? Imagine if you had a goal and I just showed up and made fun of people who you need to convince of your goal and get their support. That wouldn’t make you mad as I undermined you?

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by tankenmate »

rusk wrote: post #285
collectedparts wrote: post #42

My take on this is that Ireland is now willing to come into compliance because post-Brexit, they now have a monopoly on "urban core that could sustain an HQ for multinationals in a natively-English-speaking country in the EU." In other words, they relied on tax advantages as a differentiator for companies to choose Dublin over London for their EU HQ. But now, what would you choose if not Dublin? Obviously Paris and B…

Official Ireland were dragged into this kicking and screaming. There really wasn’t much choice involved - unless the OECD brass were thinking in generous terms towards Ireland. If anything I’d say the timing of this is in part what drove Brexit - this has been coming for a few years now and “City”* of London is one of the worlds biggest hubs for processing funny money. * This is the somewhat cryptic name for the fina…

The "City of London" (also referred to as the square mile), whose proper name is "City of London Corporation" is a roughly square mile in the centre of London that closely matches the area of the Roman settlement of Londinium. Given it's age and heritage it has many foibles; it is its own ceremonial county, it has its own police force, it has quixotic ownership of lands (and sometimes even entire towns) outside its own borders (the city of Londonderry / Derry in Northern Ireland used to be wholly owned by the City of London, hence the name Londonderry). The City of London is a strange and almost anachronistic collection of a few dozen blocks surrounded by the much larger Greater London. Read up on it, it has some very interesting and strange history.

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by rusk »

tankenmate wrote: post #308
rusk wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Official Ireland were dragged into this kicking and screaming. There really wasn’t much choice involved - unless the OECD brass were thinking in generous terms towards Ireland. If anything I’d say the timing of this is in part what drove Brexit - this has been coming for a few years now and “City”* of London is one of the worlds biggest hubs for processing funny money. * This is the somewhat cryptic name for the fina…

The "City of London" (also referred to as the square mile), whose proper name is "City of London Corporation" is a roughly square mile in the centre of London that closely matches the area of the Roman settlement of Londinium. Given it's age and heritage it has many foibles; it is its own ceremonial county, it has its own police force, it has quixotic ownership of lands (and sometimes even entire towns) outside its o…

> hence the name Londonderry

This explains far more than just the name … thanks!

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by sumedh »

ido wrote: post #279
123pie123 wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm from the UK and whilst working with a handful of dutch, I was blown away not only by their extremely good english but also their ability to understand and the subitle aspects of english - eg comedy/ sarcasium/ passive aggresstion etc..

Dutch is probably the closest language to English that isn’t a dialect of English.

> Dutch is probably the closest language to English that isn’t a dialect of English.

I still remember hearing two Dutch guys speak in Dutch, I thought there were speaking in English but then I realised I dont understand what they are saying.

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