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JCharante wrote: post #293
prawn wrote: post #207

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I wonder how much this is country-specific. I always see Americans decry the content on Twitter. I'm in Australia and follow mostly Australians. I'm sure there is outrage somewhere, but I don't see much in my feed.

My feed is half Americans (since I primarily live in the US) and half from a SEA country / expat friends from all over the world. I don't get where people see this outrage content. Mine is just like cookie recipes and I'm in tons of groups with hundreds of "friends".

A bunch of family I have that are retired spend time shitposting and sharing political junk shares. It’s like forwarding spam, honestly.

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bamboozled wrote: post #57
boplicity wrote: post #22

During the time Facebook (and related properties) have been unavailable, I can't help but feel a little better about the world. There is so much hate, arguments, misinformation, angry, and harmful messaging on FB platforms. It's nice to know all of that crap is just....gone. At least for a little while.

It does feel nice, like the oppressor has died, at least for a bit. Also fun to watch the scramble to get it back online, would be nice if it never came back :)

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Post by bb88 »

spurgu wrote: post #291
mynameisash wrote: post #264

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I quit FB for a bit over a year then came back because I missed connecting with people. I was quickly shocked by what I was actually 'missing'. The thing that jumped out at me was a former elementary/high school classmate who was literally arguing for vehicular manslaughter (murder?) -- that protesters should be run over at high-speeds for blocking the freeway[0]. Now, that's one post from one person. Yes, it's an ou…

The obvious question to me here is why you're "friends" with people like that? One of you sent the friend request in the first place and the other accepted. If/when it turns up you made a mistake with either step it's easy to undo it. As you said it's mostly outliers. Most people don't post/comment at all and the ones who do you can easily regulate (unfriend, or create a custom list (either black- or whitelist) if yo…

> The obvious question to me here is why you're "friends" with people like that?

I'm sure a lot of people loved others who have had drug addictions, joined a cult, or were fed misinformation by a group of zealots. Sometimes being a friend means "in spite of" not "because of".

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Post by indymike »

maleldil wrote: post #282
indymike wrote: post #228

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It's surprising how little impact FB being down had on myself, my family and my business.

What do you use for messaging? In my country everyone uses WhatsApp for everything, so that's why I noticed it.

Not necessarily in this order:

* Telegram for personal

* Signal

* IRC

* SMS (it's basically free where I live)

* Slack for biz

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Post by cybernautique »

FormerBandmate wrote: post #65
bamboozled wrote: post #57

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It does feel nice, like the oppressor has died, at least for a bit. Also fun to watch the scramble to get it back online, would be nice if it never came back :)

>the oppressor It’s a website that shows you what your friends are doing. That’s it. People said the same things about television

It's a multibillion dollar corporation that wants to track me wherever I go, whatever I do, whenever I want to connect. Facebook is a maniacal stalker. Their website is merely an innocuous facade that hides a nest of ugly, venomous, snakes.

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Post by cybernautique »

FormerBandmate wrote: post #130
md2020 wrote: post #68

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That’s simplifying it a lot.

There has been tons of use for it for hate, but people have found a way to use every method of communication for hate (e.g. TV, Mail, phones) and efforts to crack down on hate on Facebook haven’t seemed to have an effect on hate in the real world (see the people banned from Facebook who went on to use other platforms to coordinate 1/6). I don’t like their privacy intrusions but people seem to have a tendency to blame…

I replied to your toplevel, which I make note of simply because I don't want to seem as if I'm targeting you.

You dislike their privacy intrusions, and I hate them for it. My life is actively made worse for their stalking, their insistence that they be at the forefront of all things social.

I agree that they're not to blame for the hatred in society, nor are they responsible for all of society's problems. But their utter contempt to just let people be is reason enough that I should make myself heard as often as I can, and especially whenever I see an attempt to relieve any amount of pressure that hopefully weighs on their conscience: fuck Facebook and their employees.

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Post by bryan_w »

thepasswordis wrote: post #298
sfblah wrote: post #268

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Just out of curiosity, in that taxonomy how would you characterize Reddit?

I try to avoid reddit.com/r/all and have my subreddits pared down to dogs, mechanical keyboards, tesla stuff, cryptocurrency, sailing, and locally-relevant things (city subs for the places I have homes). I'd say facebook is: older people sharing stuff about their life. Benign posts about traveling, maybe some light complaining about the neighborhood where they live getting too expensive, complaining about their job o…

This is kinda insightful to hear. Do you happen to have an Instagram? Would love to hear your thoughts on it.

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Post by mynameisash »

spurgu wrote: post #291
mynameisash wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I quit FB for a bit over a year then came back because I missed connecting with people. I was quickly shocked by what I was actually 'missing'. The thing that jumped out at me was a former elementary/high school classmate who was literally arguing for vehicular manslaughter (murder?) -- that protesters should be run over at high-speeds for blocking the freeway[0]. Now, that's one post from one person. Yes, it's an ou…

The obvious question to me here is why you're "friends" with people like that? One of you sent the friend request in the first place and the other accepted. If/when it turns up you made a mistake with either step it's easy to undo it. As you said it's mostly outliers. Most people don't post/comment at all and the ones who do you can easily regulate (unfriend, or create a custom list (either black- or whitelist) if yo…

As it happens, this individual was the shortest-lived connection I had on the platform. I had gone back on, received and accepted the friend request, and they posted that shortly thereafter, at which point I immediately unfriended them. It wasn't long after that I decided to scrap the whole endeavor.

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Post by artificial »

tekromancr wrote: post #58
itslennysfault wrote: post #50

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Probably Facebook trackers. I noticed a lot of apps (including my own) having major slowness on initial load while they were down. My assumption is it was their tracking code timing out.

But HN doesn't have any facebook trackers

Well, these days server side api… er Conversions API is the way to go. This way if the user blocks the browser pixel the data can still be acquired for certain events, say a purchase. Google Tag Manager server side has something similar.

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Post by tarsinge »

didip wrote: post #259
boplicity wrote: post #22

During the time Facebook (and related properties) have been unavailable, I can't help but feel a little better about the world. There is so much hate, arguments, misinformation, angry, and harmful messaging on FB platforms. It's nice to know all of that crap is just....gone. At least for a little while.

With the exception of WhatsApp. WA is legitimately useful for everyone around the world to communicate with their families. WhatsApp should have IPO'd instead of selling out.

It’s relatively low friction to migrate to Signal or Telegram compared to a social network. I could said to family and friends stop using WA use that replacement with some success, but there is no migration for FB, Insta, YouTube…
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