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Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by jobigoud »

ohazi wrote: post #9
zorked wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use Firefox mobile then.

Seriously, this. There may be an argument that Chrome is marginally faster than Firefox on desktop, and while this may also technically be true on mobile, it's completely dwarfed by the fact that Chrome is being asked render 5x as much crap (with animations and sound and video and nagbars and ...) compared to Firefox mobile with uBlock Origin. You will literally regain hours of battery life. Those Joules belong to yo…

> Those Joules belong to you

My Joules, my rules.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by cookie_monsta »

e3bc54b2 wrote: post #273
cookie_monsta wrote: post #226

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But then again Netflix et al, zero ads Spotify premium, zero ads I think it's just a question of coming up with the right model. Assuming that failed examples are the rule isn't all that useful

Netflix doesn't have ads, yet. Spotify Premium doesn't have ads, yet. Hulu didn't use to have ads on its most premium tier, and from what I know, you now get ads on that too. Corporations generally don't like leaving money on the table. If you can pay, you are even better target for ads.

Hulu, in my country at least, is ad-free on premium. It's not a hard thing to investigate rather than speculate[1]

[1]https://help.hulu.com/s/article/how-much-does-hulu-cost

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by batch12 »

platz wrote: post #207

Adblocking an immoral tragedy of the commons type move. Psychologically, It's not unlike NIMBYism or residents of a gated community that figured out how to avoid paying their taxes.

These poor, poor ad companies are being taken advantage of by me. I have no shame. I even immorally block ads on thousands of endpoints used by other people! Quite the tragedy!

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by belter »

geraneum wrote: post #279
belter wrote: post #151

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Is this the fee you have to pay even if you are blind or deaf, or do not have a Radio or TV? Gives you the most boring TV News in the world, plus 600 movies per year nobody wants to watch, because they are horrible? But they collected the tax and they have to spend it, as the German actors guild is worst than a cartel? :-) https://www.german-way.com/germanys-tv-tax-the-debate-over-t...

I personally prefer boring news backed by quality journalism and funded by people rather than sensational, outrageous and superficially controversial news! If I want the excitement I watch a drama or action movie. I think the news articles/pieces work like clickbait; the more head-turning they get, the more viewers they acquire which results in higher profits.

I am not talking about sensational or misleading like in FoxNews or CNN :-) I am talking about boring as in....very serious persons, on a serious background, reading very serious the Reuters or Ap news of the day. As the service was paid and it has to provided ;-) A better model would be instead having to provide good analysis or quality content otherwise your audience will go somewhere. As in for example, the FT or the Economist.

Actually thinking about it, the issue is wider than just the news and I think the financing mode of the mandatory tax is a big part of it. What is really a shame, as Germany has a rich culture of hundreds of years so great content in all forms should not be a problem.

"Why is TV in Germany so bad?" https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/3d4vxz/why_is_tv_i...

"Why is German TV so crap?" https://www.exberliner.com/blogs/the-berlinale-blog/berlinal...

You might comment the BBC financing model is similar and I would agree. I think the difference is that the BBC also embraced a highly commercial model of selling content like Top Gear and other stuff worldwide. In this case the English language content with its planetary audience, pushed for a more competitive/commercial model and the German TV stayed too insular in my view.

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Post by cesarb »

> Plausible proxy runs as a first-party connection and is only blocked by those visitors who block JavaScript entirely.

Which means it still underestimates; those who selectively disable Javascript, through things like uBlock Origin's advanced mode or uMatrix, will not be counted. So the real percentage is probably higher than that 58%, and we don't know how much higher.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by marcinzm »

>I looked at analytics of a site that had a post trending on Hacker News and Reddit with more than a thousand upvotes and more than a thousand comments.

Reddit is a very diverse site and not a tech savvy site overall. This just means the subset of users who liked this, likely very technical link, blocked GA. To use that to claim 58% of all reddit users block GA is very disingenuous imho.

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Post by JohnFen »

bertil wrote: post #67
jokoon wrote: post #49

Are there relevant studies on the effectiveness of advertising? I remember spotting such study. I still wonder if advertising is always worth spending on, beacuse google and facebook make a big amount of money with it, but I'm still skeptical when I see the actual amount of people "engaging" in ads, when you see how much it actually costs.

Yes, pretty much every company first data person runs Cost-per-action (CPA) analysis to estimate how many sales can be attributable to ads vs. other ways of raising your brand. It’s an imperfect science (just use the word “attribution” to trigger shivers in any data person) but it’s very clear that targeted platforms offer dramatically cheaper leads for almost every product. That’s why the hostility to ads feels misp…

> That’s why the hostility to ads feels misplaced

I have no hostility to ads themselves. I have a huge amount of hostility to the spying that comes with them.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by travoc »

sodality2 wrote: post #190
qualudeheart wrote: post #119

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I’m still surprised more apps don’t have inbuilt marketplaces and then take a cut of payments. Reddit could do this. Users sell to each other through an Etsy like interface. Reddit takes 5% of each transaction. This solves Reddits existing inability to monetize through ads as successfully as their major competitors.

What would be sold on a Reddit market?

Moderator privileges and astroturfing opportunities.
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