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michaelcampbell wrote: post #208
dr_dshiv wrote: post #53

Because Prince Charles is heir to the throne (and has been portrayed more negatively in the news media than any other living person), some in the HN community may be surprised to know that he wrote a book on philosophy . https://www.amazon.com/Harmony-New-Way-Looking-World/dp/0061... I found the book to be astonishingly good. It takes a design approach to Platonism and western esotericism. It goes deep into "sacred g…

> and has been portrayed more negatively in the news media than any other living person Uhm, what?

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Post by zokier »

gorgoiler wrote: post #194

Sixty five years as the husband of the head of state of a G7, nuclear armed nation, that brought the world Thatcherite individualism and the first cracks in the EU. Philip, like it or not, wielded influence and power beyond his constitutional station. One doesn’t have to like him, but one should respect him.

Can you give some examples how the late Prince wielded influence and power? I don't remember him playing any significant role in history, but then I haven't really been looking that closely either.

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Post by blackshaw »

gumby wrote: post #141
nickkell wrote: post #4

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Narrowly missed getting a telegram from his wife

She sent the card (it’s a card now) to her mother (also Queen Elisabeth) when the latter turned 100. I believe my grandmother waited around for this, at the end. She had never been particularly interested in the monarchy, I’d thought, but when she got older and had trouble reading I noticed that among her large print gardening books were a couple on the monarchy.

The question I want answered is, if she lives to 100 will she send a card to herself?

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Post by sgt101 »

iso1631 wrote: post #254
dghf wrote: post #196

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> about 1918 when universal suffrage finally came in. It was 1928.

Yes, 1918 allowed some women to vote -- over 30, and property owners (or married to such). In 1918 all men over 21 could vote. 1928 equalised it to everyone over 21

1928 is what I should have written.

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Post by EliRivers »

alistairSH wrote: post #200
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #162

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The Queen holds a weekly audience with the Prime Minister. It's unlikely they make chitchat about the weather. The monarch also vets laws while they're being drafted and can make suggestions for changes if they affect their interests. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vette... The Queen isn't just the head of the armed forces - they swear an oath of loyalty directly to the Monarch, not to the peo…

The Queen isn't just the head of the armed forces - they swear an oath of loyalty directly to the Monarch... Interestingly (to me, anyways) is the oath is made directly to Queen Elizabeth by name, not to the crown in general. And isn't made by officers in the Royal Navy, because the navy wasn't created by act of Parliament, but by royal prerogative, so their fealty is assumed.

I certainly never gave any such oath when I joined (navy), but I've got a feeling the new joiners these days do declare some kind of oath. Might have signed the official secrets act but I bet they've long since lost it; the paperwork was all over the place at that time.

Not that the oath is needed, obviously. If BoJo (or any other such government apparatchik) told me to do something I'd tell him to shove it; if HRH issued a lawful order, well, fair enough your Majesty, I'll see what I can do. Had lunch with her back in 2003 or thereabouts, and a free lunch is always welcome.

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Post by starfallg »

oneplane wrote: post #259
ubermonkey wrote: post #207

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Extremely famous people frequently "author" books, usually with ghostwriters. Charles' book is credit to him "with" two other people (Tony Juniper and Ian Skelly who, I suspect, did most of the heavy lifting. Charles has for years been sympathetic to all sorts of woo, such as "alternative" medicine; his book was met with broad criticism for its cherry-picking of scientific findings to support his environmental agenda…

I don't think there is such a thing as 'alternative medicine'. There is medicine, and there is not-medicine. Just like there is treatment and there is not-treatment. Calling things 'alternative' puts them on the same level, which they are not.

Part of the issue is that the practice of medicine predate scientific medicine (which is known as just 'medicine' today). For example, many medicinal herbs used in traditional medicine are effective for a variety of ailments, and some have been proven scientifically. So how do we reconcile that with scientific medicine without stigmatising possibly effective remedies.

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Post by aaronax »

iso1631 wrote: post #235
pta2002 wrote: post #205

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What does this mean?

In the pre internet days, when communication went through various manual means like telephone exchanges, there were codewords known by various people to announce royal deaths without it leaking. The death of the Queen for example has to be announced to all commonwealth country leaders at the exact same time, which means coordination, which means following certain plans, but limiting the information to make sure it's…

Since the code words are related to what they reference in some way, I find it difficult to believe that they were ever intended for a serious purpose. Maybe they are useful for clarity of communication in some way, but certainly not for secrecy (which would probably require randomly selecting names from a word list).

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Post by Someone »

andrepd wrote: post #148
ksec wrote: post #36

It wasn't that long ago he recovered from an infection [1]. And I remember reading he is only a few more months from 100 years old!. Spending his life serving the country. Rest In Peace [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56172496

> Spending his life serving the country. More like spending his life having the country serve him.

It’s made of gold, it’s big, but it still is a cage.

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Post by rodelrod »

starfallg wrote: post #307
oneplane wrote: post #259

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I don't think there is such a thing as 'alternative medicine'. There is medicine, and there is not-medicine. Just like there is treatment and there is not-treatment. Calling things 'alternative' puts them on the same level, which they are not.

Part of the issue is that the practice of medicine predate scientific medicine (which is known as just 'medicine' today). For example, many medicinal herbs used in traditional medicine are effective for a variety of ailments, and some have been proven scientifically. So how do we reconcile that with scientific medicine without stigmatising possibly effective remedies.

We do the trials.
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