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Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Facebook is not a platform to have a voice. It’s a platform that harvests thoughts and publicizes the ones FB most agrees with while censoring those it does not. This is a slippery slope and, quite frankly, it’s the people that lose.

When you're more or less encouraging a coup, the "fire in a crowded theater" analogy couldn't be more applicable.

Stop saying it was a coup. A bunch of mostly unarmed morons weren't overtaking anything.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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post #69

Interesting how they sing a different tune once the other party finally gets certification of the election results, time to get 'cozy' with the new people in power and set up those dinners [1] and ad deals with them. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerbe...

Yes, this must be it. Must have nothing to do with the fact that he said "You're special, we love you!" to the people laying siege at the U.S. Capitol.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you're more or less encouraging a coup, the "fire in a crowded theater" analogy couldn't be more applicable.

Ah yes, either Trump is a cult leader who is threatening the very core of our democracy, or the election was rigged and we're about to get a Chinese style Manchurian candidate in the White House. I'm so glad that the media vigorously looked into these allegations of corruption and fraud, instead of dismissing them for partisan reasons, because then we might have a split, between people who get their information from…

I'm getting quite tired of these false equivalencies.

Trump directed a mob yesterday to storm our Capitol and it sounds like you're being sarcastic about him threatening our democracy. What does he need to do? Burn it down and hang the Vice President for not exceeding his ceremonial powers like his mob chanted?

The claims of the election should be dismissed by rational people, which is exactly what happened in legislatures and courts across the country led by people of every political position except those that want to tear down our democracy for a demagogue and lie to their constituents about reality.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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post #179

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So while the Capitol is very symbolic, there wasn’t looting, rioting or major vandalism on the part of the protesters (compare to the “Autonomous Zone” and police precinct burning in Seattle. Does that mean in the future demonstrations and protests that could potentially end up in violence like that be suppressed by Facebook and Twitter? Or can we expect partisanship and see them bless other protests that turn to vio…

Occupying the washington monument is symbolic. Invading the capitol building to stop the electoral count and intimidate congress into overturning the election results is not symbolic.

What did you think of the Kavanaugh protestors who invaded the Capitol building to stop his confirmation?

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/408169-police-arrest-128...

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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post #69

Interesting how they sing a different tune once the other party finally gets certification of the election results, time to get 'cozy' with the new people in power and set up those dinners [1] and ad deals with them. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerbe...

Only reason was because he was POTUS. Otherwise he would have been removed long ago. The moment he wasn't potus anymore he was to be removed from these platforms.

The consequence of this however will be political division. If you thought the political division was bad now because of 'echo chambers'. Wait until the camps are no longer talking because they arent on the same platforms.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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This kind of stuff always saddens me because it's a lose lose. It's like "you know it when you see it", and maybe in a certain instance this kind of block is used for good. But often times it just eventually becomes the basis for a bad actor to use against everyone. So what do you do, allow a shitstorm to proliferate due to "free speech"? Or instigate these rules and basically write your own doom eventually...

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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I find interesting that at least in spanish facebook does NOTHING to prevent fake news, calls to assassinate local leaders, fake elections fraud and other content to spread. Even those comments are always promoted as "the most relevant". FB is an amplifier of all this mess and is ruining democracies everywhere.

The people running Facebook don’t live in Spain, that’s 100% why.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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post #69

Interesting how they sing a different tune once the other party finally gets certification of the election results, time to get 'cozy' with the new people in power and set up those dinners [1] and ad deals with them. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-hosted-zuckerbe...

There's no meaningful difference between Joe Biden's status yesterday and his status today. I get that pretending otherwise is a good way to frame FB in a negative light, fine, but it's also weirdly close to the deluded thinking of the people who attacked the Capitol building.

I think there is a meaningful difference as of yesterday. It now looks like Biden will have a cooperative Democratic controlled senate, because of the Georgia results.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you were advocating for the silencing of BLM leaders who were encouraging violence during recent months too...

Absolutely, where that occured, and unlike Trump, both Facebook and Twitter has no problem suspending and removing accounts of BLM advocates when they made calls for violence.

Sean King... Still on Twitter, advocated for violence in the name of BLM for months to his > 1 million followers.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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post #231

All of these HN comments are defending shouting "Fire!" falsely in a theater under the guise of it being a slippery slope before all speech is lost. I have lost a lot of respect for these slippery slope arguments because they are easy to make and ignore the obvious problem which is that some speech shouldn't be tolerated... Especially intolerant or harmful speech.

So uh, who's going to be the arbiter of what exactly constitutes intolerant or harmful speech? You? Me? Facebook? The government? Twitter?

Whoever gets the power to define what's acceptable and not acceptable speech is given too much power. You might trust that arbiter now, tomorrow, but do you honestly believe their incentives will always remain pure?

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