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Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Post by dang »

pinkfoot wrote: post #255
pinkfoot wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> … the Australian FNP. They were far, far more advanced than European propagandists could allow anyone to imagine. Other thank some claims about land management and herbal medicine, what were that not only more advanced in but FAR more advanced? Ship building, metallurgy, literature, maths, chemistry, conflict management, law? I am genuinely curious.

Surely its easier to tell us all what the advancements were than downvote me? I am genuinely curious. [after all propagandists have prevented me from imagining, let alone knowing.]

Please don't break the site guidelines like this. Flamewar dross and empty complaints about downvoting are both off topic here.

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Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Post by dang »

pinkfoot wrote: post #283
fit2rule wrote: post #279

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Oldest continually running mining operation of mankind. Longest running school. A Hippocratic oath before Europeans genocided them. Forms of agriculture which literally guaranteed a well-fed populace. An understanding of antiseptic materials, and even micro-biology, in an age of European miasma theory and blood-letting. There is much to learn about oneself once you drop the prejudice. I'm not suggesting we haven't "a…

> There is much to learn about oneself once you drop the prejudice. Oh get over yourself - I asked "out of genuine curiosity."

You've been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly and badly in your posts to HN. If you keep doing that, we're going to have to ban you. Would you please https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow the rules instead? People posting here need to do that regardless of how bad other comments are or they feel they are.

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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ctchocula wrote: post #292
as-j wrote: post #37

As an early morning runner in SF, I see coyotes in SF every week or two, including at Twin peaks as mentioned in the article. One morning in Golden Gate Park I warned a few people walkings dogs since there were about 4 coyotes around the corner. From my first hand experience, I'd assume any wooded area with cover in SF has a coyote living there.

What advice do you have for dealing with coyotes when jogging? I've learned the hard way that running away tends to trigger their fight-or-flight reflex, which isn't good.

They've never bothered me, I treat them like any other wild animal, give them a wide berth, let them be, don't trap them, and don't turn my back on them. Normally they're going somewhere, and just let them go there.

I worry about people with dogs since dogs can easily chase a coyote, corner it then get bitten or eaten if it's small enough.

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Post by xsmasher »

unlinked_dll wrote: post #32

Bit weird to see them in broad daylight, but we definitely have an urban coyote problem in the US. I swear the most common "crazy story from my vet" is the soccer mom that rescues a litter of puppies that she found on her run...

Probably something they heard from another vet, who heard from another vet - sounds very close to the classic "Mexican Pet" urban legend.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-mexican-pet/

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Post by stevespang »

spodek wrote: post #135

What we think of wild nature is nothing compared to what used to exist. Schools of fish so dense they would bring boats to a halt in the middle of the Atlantic. North America had more large wildlife than Africa. Whales as far as the eye could see all day long. Walruses in the Thames in London. I did a couple video essays on what I learned from a wonderful book The Once and Future World : My video essays: https://yout…

"Schools of fish so dense they would bring boats to a halt in the middle of the Atlantic" . . . until the Chinese factory fishing boats arrived and murdered them all

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Post by yters »

_jal wrote: post #168
yters wrote: post #156

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Farming and agriculture is ecological creation on a grand scale, and responsible for much of human flourishing, along with the animals and plants we cultivate.

Agriculture is an activity, not an ecosystem. Humans are but one element of the ecosystems in which they exist, and their flourishing is relevant only insofar as it preserves systemic viability. Farms are inherently unstable - the 'system' is missing. From an ecological perspective, they're no more an ecosystem than you'd get if you released a bunch of random animals in your house. You'd have a new 'system' that last…

Hence human's ability to avert collapse on a continyal basis. No other creature farms like humans.

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Post by [deleted] »

fit2rule wrote: post #278
r6754dw wrote: post #249

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I'm sure Europeans would have adopted any advances of great value to them, just like they adopted a lot of crops from the new world.

In fact, Europeans did - eventually - catch up with the Australian FNP's innate knowledge of healing. They had a form of resilient Hippocratic oath for literally thousands of years before us, for example. An understanding of antiseptics in a European age of miasma theory. And so on ..

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Post by mariodiana »

ctchocula wrote: post #292
as-j wrote: post #37

As an early morning runner in SF, I see coyotes in SF every week or two, including at Twin peaks as mentioned in the article. One morning in Golden Gate Park I warned a few people walkings dogs since there were about 4 coyotes around the corner. From my first hand experience, I'd assume any wooded area with cover in SF has a coyote living there.

What advice do you have for dealing with coyotes when jogging? I've learned the hard way that running away tends to trigger their fight-or-flight reflex, which isn't good.

Do like Texas's former governor, Rick Perry—shoot it dead.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100501095227/http://www.chron....

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