301–310 of 784 posts
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> prosecution in a free country The free country responsible for the Guantanamo secret prison? We are talking about the same one?
We're talking about the same country(s). I still consider the US, Sweeden, and the UK "free countries".
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless it means that those attacks that the intelligence community prevented will take place.
Odds are pretty high the intelligence community has resulted in more attacks on America than it has prevented.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
He is currently held in solitary confinement, with 1 hour outside his cell per day. That is torture.
And the years before he spent time in an embassy on his own free will, the solitary confinement is new.
In 2016 another group of UN experts found his situation to be "arbitrary detention":
> In its official Opinion, the Working Group considered that Mr. Assange had been subjected to different forms of deprivation of liberty: initial detention in Wandsworth Prison in London, followed by house arrest and then confinement at the Ecuadorean Embassy.
> The experts also found that the detention was arbitrary because Mr. Assange was held in isolation at Wandsworth Prison, and because a lack of diligence by the Swedish Prosecutor’s Office in its investigations resulted in his lengthy loss of liberty.
> The Working Group established that this detention violates Articles 9 and 10 of the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and Articles 7, 9(1), 9(3), 9(4), 10 and 14 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
Julian Assange arbitrarily detained by Sweden and the UK, UN expert panel finds
https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?N...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> but arguing that is ignoring the fact that leaving would mean jail. > It’s victim blaming Yeah, but the victim is the woman he raped and that will not see any justice, because he ran...
He did not rape anyone nor did anyone accused him of rape. He is being accused of a very specific thing which at best might be classified as sexual misconduct.
That's false.
> He is being accused of a very specific thing which at best might be classified as sexual misconduct.
it's rape in Sweden.
I don't know why you split hairs on this simple fact.
Worth mentioning that Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, visited Assange and described his treatment as psychological torture: > “It was obvious that Mr. Assange’s health has been seriously affected by the extremely hostile and arbitrary environment he has been exposed to for many years,” the expert said. “Most importantly, in addition to physical ailments, Mr. Assange showed all symptoms typical for…
He confined himself to a room. He skipped bail and was on the lam. Ridiculous for the UN to qualify this as the UK state torturing him - it denigrates the reputation of the UN.
the reputation of the UN??? go learn about the un before you defend a corrupt system that acts just like any other foundation. United Nations pays its employees an average of $82,397 a year. and every peacekeeper is paid $1,428/month.
THE UN:
"Charity sex scandal: UN staff ‘responsible for 60,000 rapes in a decade’
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/un-staff-responsible-for-...
And thats just ONE of their thousands of scandals.
---
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/16/world/un-details-its-fail...
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/12/car-up-to-100...
http://theconversation.com/when-un-peacekeepers-commit-atroc...
"Peacekeepers have been accused of sexually exploiting women in the Congo, being involved in sex trafficking in Bosnia and Kosovo, child abuse in Côte d'Ivoire and Haiti, as well as corruption, stealing, drink-driving and manslaughter.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/16746-...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, visited Assange and described his treatment as psychological torture.
I read the articles. As I noted I disagree. If he didn't divulge something(s) that also added to his assessment I can't account for that.
Solitary confinement is often used during war. That Assange is incarcerated in a civilian prison doesn't necessarily diminish or change the effectiveness and impact.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless it means that those attacks that the intelligence community prevented will take place.
Maybe it will prevent some of those attacks that the intelligence community precipitated. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-attack-drones...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless it means that those attacks that the intelligence community prevented will take place.
Odds are pretty high the intelligence community has resulted in more attacks on America than it has prevented.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> . He should not have to stand trial for that. The Trump administration pushed the pedal on it. And to think that Assange was scared as hell of Hillary Clinton, which actually would be a much better option for him now, imagine Hillary forgiving Assange, she had a lot to gain from it, Trump doesn't care, he just really doesn't.
Yep. If Assange were betting a Trump administration would pardon him, he didn't do his homework on Trump.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whistleblowing is a focused revelation of wrongdoing. Scraping the secret-classified documents of the State Department, handing them over to a foreign organization, and saying "You'll make the best use of this, I trust you" isn't whistleblowing. At best, it's irresponsible; at worst, it's irresponsibility that walks right up to the edge of malicious treason. I'm very glad Manning wasn't convicted of treason, because…
> handing them over to a foreign organization, and saying "You'll make the best use of this, I trust you" isn't whistleblowing. So Snowden isn’t a whistleblower because he gave them to the Guardian?
Technical (legal): No, clearly not. There's a reason he's hiding from the US justice system in Russia. He didn't follow the legal process for whistleblowing (and he probably should not have).
Moral: The major difference between Manning and Snowden's leaks is that Snowden read the documents he forwarded and only collected and forwarded enough to blow the whistle. Manning never read all the cables she extracted; she had no idea what the blast-radius of that declassification would be.