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Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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I have been running Windows since 3.11 and have never had any of the issues with Windows Update described in this thread since the XP days. Don't think these issues are common, just the vocal minority.

You're obviously blind then.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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That really long greeting that says "your files are where you left them" that you can't speed up or cancel out of makes me want to kick puppies.

The last time I installed Windows most of the greeting messages came off as patronizing or subtly sinister, like that one. Throughout Windows’ history, even before I had ever used Macs, it has felt as if someone at Microsoft keeps having the wrong idea about what people adore about Macs, and tries to imitate that in a “we can do it better” way.

Don't worry... your files are right where you left them. As long as they're not in Documents...

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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I'm a tolerant person, but recently I switched from Windows to Mac because the forced Windows updates kept messing me up. One time I left a long simulation running overnight. In the morning, I was greeted by a computer that had automatically rebooted to install updates, killing my simulation. Another instance was my daughter's birthday party, where she wanted to show a movie. The computer decided to spend an hour doi…

Humble tip - You can pause updates for up to 45 days. During this period, you can enable them at your leisure. This is what I do when I'm leaving my computer for an overnight rendering.

Need them 100% off. Had to downgrade to Win7...

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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I shifted to Linux full time this year from MacOS. The only thing I desperately need is a replacement for is MS Office. Any ideas? I'm a power user, which Google word is simply not good for.

https://www.openoffice.org

OpenOffice development has been virtually stagnant for several years: LibreOffice is the actively developed version (and the one that Linux distributions support).

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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That's why we developed a product which main feature is to aid in installation of Windows 7 to new PCs:

https://www.prime-expert.com/flashboot/features_v3/install-w...

There's a growing community of users and developers who restrict themselves to Windows 7. Forever. Win7 EOL soon, so no updates from Microsoft? Fine. It's a feature. Updates from Microsoft are no good anyway.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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This is exactly one of the main reasons why I switched to Linux, it doesn't do anything unless I let it or ask it to - with few exceptions. My anecdote: I was about to have an important meeting and needed to print off some sheets from my Windows-based netbook. The power was low ( FYI the Linux experience has been mostly great. There's been maybe a problem once a year, with some driver or package issue - but most of t…

I shifted to Linux full time this year from MacOS. The only thing I desperately need is a replacement for is MS Office. Any ideas? I'm a power user, which Google word is simply not good for.

I know everyone is suggesting Libreoffice (and it has honestly gotten a lot better recently) but I remember once when my laptop died and all I had was a shitty old Centrino someone lent me, I ended up using the Microsoft online powerpoint tool to make a presentation that was due.

The web versions of MS Office tools are actually pretty well build and feel pretty close to their desktop counterparts.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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post #118
post #115

I'm a tolerant person, but recently I switched from Windows to Mac because the forced Windows updates kept messing me up. One time I left a long simulation running overnight. In the morning, I was greeted by a computer that had automatically rebooted to install updates, killing my simulation. Another instance was my daughter's birthday party, where she wanted to show a movie. The computer decided to spend an hour doi…

I'm by no means a low-level OS developer but I can't help but wonder, wouldn't it be possible for Windows to partition off part of the disk to copy system-critical files and then quietly stage updates in the partition (all of this with minimal thread priority so that if some other process demands resources/threads, it will pause/defer itself!). When the staged update is complete, it gives you a friendly notification…

The original devs for WinNT and NTFS made some interesting decisions with file locking. Hard locks in the Windows world are pretty difficult to identify, much less release.

The update stage all the files that need to be change and complete the release process on boot before any system processors are allowed to lock anything.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly one of the main reasons why I switched to Linux, it doesn't do anything unless I let it or ask it to - with few exceptions. My anecdote: I was about to have an important meeting and needed to print off some sheets from my Windows-based netbook. The power was low ( FYI the Linux experience has been mostly great. There's been maybe a problem once a year, with some driver or package issue - but most of t…

I shifted to Linux full time this year from MacOS. The only thing I desperately need is a replacement for is MS Office. Any ideas? I'm a power user, which Google word is simply not good for.

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Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Linux desktop is in its best shape since its inception, and yet a thousand light years away from Windows.

> and yet a thousand light years away from Windows Yep, in the front. Stuff works. You don't need 32GB of memory to run anything. The system doesn't get locked down all the time while the OS uses the entire IO capacity. The computer does not misbehave all the time and instead does what you order. You get software for almost everything right from the package manager, and it works for you, instead of shoving ads or lic…

Such rants would actually be believable when instead of cherry-picking the ultimate worst experiences and generalizing them you'd stick to more average statements, more reflective of the truth. I'm not saying this to defend Windows, denying it has problems would be insane, but just to let you know it's prerfectly possible to rant on Windows without going into extremes which sound ridiculous to people who actually know and use Windows on a variety of devices. E.g. I can rant the same way about Linux or OSX based on the worst experiences I had with it, and you'd recognize it would be far away from your experience. Also I can counter each of your examples just based on a Windows 10 install I happened to do a week ago so clearly something is off with your statements: after boot uses about 2.5GB of memory. Personally didn't experience lock downs, though I heard it from others as well, but not 'all the time'.. Driver issues? As far as I'm concerned it does what I tell it to, 'all the time'. I installed a terminal, text editor and IDE using a package manager. They all work for me and don't show adds nor licensing constraints.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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I shifted to Linux full time this year from MacOS. The only thing I desperately need is a replacement for is MS Office. Any ideas? I'm a power user, which Google word is simply not good for.

May I suggest LibreOffice? Either via your Linux distribution's package manager, or as a Flatpak from https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.libreoffice.LibreOffice It should be able to handle most use cases

I'd recommend AppImages over flatpak. They're generally more stable
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