My dad’s resume and skills from 1980 • Hacker News Board

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Post by dang » Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 6:50 PM UTC

inawarminister wrote: post #78

Put in a home? Why wouldn't you want to spend all the last time on this mortal earth with your parents, and holding their hands as they leave this lifetime? Repayment of when you yourself was born into this one? I don't understand Western opinion on this matter. But on topic, that is one concise application letter. Cheers for your dad efforts back then!

It's a breach of HN's civility rules to disparage other people's intimate personal situations. There's always a great deal we don't know, and what lies underneath is often pretty tragic.

Please don't post like this to HN.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Post by matchagaucho » Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 6:54 PM UTC

ilaksh wrote: post #219

iforgotpassword wrote: post #123

Is your dad for hire? We have this legacy toolchain in cobol and IBM assembler running on a bunch of mainframes and are just not ready to migrate to our brand new Itanium servers we have ordered a while ago. Our engineers are busy porting all the logic but need help understanding the inner workings of the old setup. While they're at it, we have this small list of features we'd like to have added to the old version...…

He has severe dementia unfortunately. I just thought it might be interesting to people to see what technologies were in use at those times. My dad loves to play catch with his stuffed doggie (or whatever you will throw to him) but activities more complicated than that are not feasible.

Wonder how much of his COBOL is still running today?

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Post by burfog » Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 6:57 PM UTC

Spooky23 wrote: post #159

drmpeg wrote: post #64

Looks like his SSN is crossed out. I was cleaning out some junk in my house and found an old telephone directory from when I worked at a military contractor in the 80's. It had everyones SSN on it. Times have changed.

My college posted test grades by ssn!

These days, they don't even post grades.

This is a loss. The competition was good. Success brought respect, and failure brought shame. Everybody had an extra incentive to put in more effort.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Post by hluska » Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 6:58 PM UTC

virgilp wrote: post #282

mohsen1 wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If people didn't realize, your dad is 92! I wish my dad lives that long, I love to take care of him when he's vulnerable. Just to return the favor a little bit.

Better take care of him now, both of you will appreciate it much better. Dementia is not fun at all, for any of the involved parties.

That's sad.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Post by hycaria » Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 6:59 PM UTC

account2 wrote: post #299

the_new_guy_29 wrote: post #296

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Its not about buzzwords but time ranges. Currently new frameworks are created in dozens and few are required for everyday work and they change each year. The amount of information newer programmers have to keep pace with is HUGE... Thats why some companies stop hiring ppl after 30s because they are simply not able (statistically) to keep with all of it. Its also more about not having other responsibilities - family,…

>Thats why some companies stop hiring ppl after 30s This is a huge generalization. Some people's careers start in their 30s. Would you think some 30s something ML researcher that just got a PhD is over the hill? Not everyone is married and has kids in their 30s either.

Yup. And who exactly lives through his 20s without dealing with groceries and other mundane stuff ? Am I missing on some life hack?

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Post by ashleyn » Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 7:02 PM UTC

adventured wrote: post #287

metaphor wrote: post #55

If I lived through 3 wars and had a strong career alignment with major defense contractors, I suppose I'd be inclined to disclose health and height out of habit...but was this generally expected on a resume back in the 80s?

Here's the resume of Bill Gates from 1973 (lists height and weight) - https://i.imgur.com/btFE99N.jpg And Paul Allen's - https://i.imgur.com/0pDSVBS.jpg

Goddamn, that phone number's old enough to have letters in the exchange.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Post by peter303 » Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 7:09 PM UTC

metaphor wrote: post #55

If I lived through 3 wars and had a strong career alignment with major defense contractors, I suppose I'd be inclined to disclose health and height out of habit...but was this generally expected on a resume back in the 80s?

They used to say never put a picture on a US resume (common in some countries). But a picture is considered essential on LinkedIn to increase the search status. Go figure.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Post by bsimpson » Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 7:12 PM UTC

twblalock wrote: post #276

y4mi wrote: post #98

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you expect a webdev to know the difference between the current standard and its next version thats hardly used at the moment? aren't you expecting a little bit too much? Don't get me wrong, its great if you do... but knowing about upcoming encryption standards is imo something a security engineer should be fluent in, not a web developer.

I expect web devs to know about a lot of security concepts, including SSL/TLS, subresource integrity, CORS, a variety of cross-site stuff, etc. It's simply dangerous if they don't.

"web dev" is a big tent with room for many specializations underneath. Not everyone needs to know everything.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Post by peter303 » Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 7:13 PM UTC

Spooky23 wrote: post #159

drmpeg wrote: post #64

Looks like his SSN is crossed out. I was cleaning out some junk in my house and found an old telephone directory from when I worked at a military contractor in the 80's. It had everyones SSN on it. Times have changed.

My college posted test grades by ssn!

My college ID card was the SSN. They did not have instant online credit like today.

Re: My dad’s resume and skills from 1980

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Post by bsimpson » Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 7:24 PM UTC

jrumbut wrote: post #233

m12k wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the meantime a whole bunch of organizations started accepting 'usernames' as passwords

I don't think this should be voted down, the SSN was originally designed as a sort of username for tracking earnings, before anyone realized how important it would be to have a password. An SSN was not designed to be a unique secret identifier held by every individual. But we have used it that way, and built a house of cards on it. "In 1938, a leather factory in Lockport, New York attempted to capitalize on the excit…

For a long time, the last 4 digits of a SSN were the only ones with any entropy. The first 5 were determined by when and where you were issued an SSN (usually at the hospital when you were born).

Suppose your number is 123-45-6789. If an attacker can uncover that you were born in Springfield in December 1989, they can deduce that the first 5 digits are likely 123-45. Now, there are only 9999 possibilities for what your full SSN might be.

Moreover, the only random bits are routinely used by utility companies, hospitals, etc. as an oral password and written identifier. If someone reads or overhears that your last 4 are 6789 and knows when/where you were born, they have a frighteningly good chance of discovering your SSN.