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Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by wsc981 »

kolev wrote: post #5

Honestly, I've never seen another product here getting a post for every minor build! Nice to see such a die-hard fan base! But, please, face the reality - many have moved over to Atom already and are not looking back. Atom is alive, the ecosystem is already huge, atom-shell is getting popular as well. Unless Sublime gets open-sourced, it's in a slow agony. Remember TextMate? It had a huge loyal user base, but who is…

I tried Atom and to me, the editor just feels slow. I've been using Sublime Text for a long while now and last week I decided to "bite the bullet" and buy a license. It's just too nice of an editor for languages like Ruby, Markdown and even C# (with the OmniSharp plugin).

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by bdcravens »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #12
coldtea wrote: post #11

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> But, please, face the reality - many have moved over to Atom already and are not looking back. I seriously doubt it. First, people kept using TextMate when it was dead for 3 years or so. The most ST3 has been idle was 6-7 months, and before and after that the update pace (for dev releases) was great. Second, it's not like anything major was missing from the editor even 2 years ago, or that it stopped working or any…

Atom may always be slower, but the speed difference could eventually become negligible. If ST3, in it's current form, existed 20 years ago, people would have been making the same argument about Vim vs. ST3.

I hope so, but it'll require significant improvement. From the command line, "subl ." loads almost immediately, whereas "atom" can take 10+ seconds. (on a MBP with 16gb + SSD)

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by bdcravens »

kolev wrote: post #23
coldtea wrote: post #11

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> But, please, face the reality - many have moved over to Atom already and are not looking back. I seriously doubt it. First, people kept using TextMate when it was dead for 3 years or so. The most ST3 has been idle was 6-7 months, and before and after that the update pace (for dev releases) was great. Second, it's not like anything major was missing from the editor even 2 years ago, or that it stopped working or any…

Atom is not that slow in practice... except the slow startup, for daily business it's fine - I'm using it with a full suite of linters and autocomplete plugins on the older MacBook Air and it's not laggy.

It does some weird things in full screen, especially if you have multiple windows going. I've closed one window, but the save dialog pops up on another... but when I swipe over, that dialog goes away, and the modal that I can't click on blocks the rest of the UI. Nothing but a force kill can resolve it. I've been using it 4-12 hours a day for several months, so I'm rooting for it, but losing work will always trump whatever OSS cred it has.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by amima »

bdcravens wrote: post #24
amima wrote: post #17

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August 2014 beta build was a really small update and the only one in year 2014. To be honest, my feeling also was that project has been abandoned. ST3 was silent for about a year and is supported by the single developer (as far as I understand it). No updates (except for one in August) in the times of Atom release, this looked like there was no more motivation for the Sublime Text developer. I am really happy that it…

It actually has been active the past few months, but builds were only being released for the dev channel (requiring an ST2 license)

I agree, that's why I say it was almost inactive for about a year, not 15 months. The point is, the real delay was bigger than 6-9 months, at least it's how the one could think about it.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by husted »

kolev wrote: post #15
tmikaeld wrote: post #6

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I have tried Atom, many many times. But i always get annoyed by how SLOW it is.

It's slow with huge source files, agreed, but you shouldn't have huge source files anyway.

That might be true but my tools should never dictate how I work.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by wodenokoto »

kolev wrote: post #20
wodenokoto wrote: post #8

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My impression when looking at HN is that people are not that impressed with Atom. Nobody I know in the real world uses atom, but I'm a poor data point. The reason why everybody is up in arms about every minor update is that a lot of people see every little peep from the dev as (hopeful) proof that the project isn't dead.

People here still get excited about LISP, too. I can understand Clojure, but Lisp, come on! It was in the 80s and 90s when I used LISP for AI and my favorite muLISP, but it's 2015 already! So, this is a boutique community, don't make generalization from it. Atom is doing pretty well for its infancy! I was super excited about Intype in the past - much more excited about anybody could be about Sublime. After many, many…

I just looked more deeply into the update cycle of Sublime and apparently the dev channel has weekly updates.

I guess that they haven't been good at communicating that they are not in hiatus!

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by cheald »

kolev wrote: post #15
tmikaeld wrote: post #6

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I have tried Atom, many many times. But i always get annoyed by how SLOW it is.

It's slow with huge source files, agreed, but you shouldn't have huge source files anyway.

You've never wanted to open a multi-megabyte data file in a text editor before?

"You shouldn't be opening large files in it anyhow" is a cop-out. My text editor needs to edit whatever text files I throw at it. Choking on too-large a file is a showstopper.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by weavie »

kolev wrote: post #20
wodenokoto wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My impression when looking at HN is that people are not that impressed with Atom. Nobody I know in the real world uses atom, but I'm a poor data point. The reason why everybody is up in arms about every minor update is that a lot of people see every little peep from the dev as (hopeful) proof that the project isn't dead.

People here still get excited about LISP, too. I can understand Clojure, but Lisp, come on! It was in the 80s and 90s when I used LISP for AI and my favorite muLISP, but it's 2015 already! So, this is a boutique community, don't make generalization from it. Atom is doing pretty well for its infancy! I was super excited about Intype in the past - much more excited about anybody could be about Sublime. After many, many…

People got excited about Richard III (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-32014296) and he's from the 1400's. I can understand Prince George, but Richard, come on!
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