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Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about it [video] [NSFW]

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Post by tomp »

icantthinkofone wrote: post #24

This isn't a case she should be making at all. This is a hacking issue, not any "hatred of women" or anything else she's trying to make it out to be. She's embarrassed and trying to deflect it onto something else. Hacking, yes. Hatred of women and rape issues, no. I'm also having problems with the video showing the very pictures she was so embarrassed about. There is some sort of disconnect there I don't have time to…

> This is a hacking issue, not any "hatred of women" or anything else she's trying to make it out to be.

Exactly; if anything, it's love and attraction to women; male nudes are much less popular online.

Re: Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about it [video] [NSFW]

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Post by [deleted] »

DanBC wrote: post #16

It seems like this could be a useful area for a honeypot. Take photographs of a willing model (who knows what they're going to be used for); "dox" this model (release the images with fake details); collect information of the harassing people who send messages. I'm not sure what you then do with the information of harassers. Ploce in the UK spend a lot of time dealing with online a use. It might account for about half…

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Re: Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about it [video] [NSFW]

#33

Post by probably_wrong »

cmsj wrote: post #5
dstoyanov wrote: post #3

Well if she didn't post her naked pictures in Facebook, even if it was hacked, nobody would get them. Is it not a common sense not to post your naked pictures on the Internet? Especially if you don't want people to look at them...

If you don't wantto have your car stolen it's common sense to not own a car. If you don't want your money to be stolen it's common sense to be broke. If you don't want your kids to be kidnapped it's common sense to remain childless. If you don't want to be murdered it's common sense to commit suicide. Of course people should be aware of risks and manage them appropriately, but it's also possible to not blame them for…

> If you don't want to be murdered it's common sense to commit suicide.

I really dislike this line of thought, because I think it boils the issue down to black and white, all or nothing. "... it's common sense to commit suicide" makes no sense, of course, but how about "... it's common sense not to walk alone at night in a high-crime area"?

I don't believe for a second that she "deserved what she got". But I don't think "do not put naked pictures on the internet" is bad advice either, specially considering the (very) large number of cases in which women's pictures were stolen.

Is there really no possibility for a middle ground?

Re: Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about it [video] [NSFW]

#34

Post by ZeroGravitas »

scribu wrote: post #13
nrinaudo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

dstoyanov, a few comments down, is not a bad example of them.

I think implying that someone is a "psychopathic misogynist" just from a single comment is a bit harsh.

Implying that the woman who wrote this article is a liar, and has invented her story like a UFO abductee, also seems harsh, some might say "misogynistic" even.

Sadly this attitude seems too common to put it down to psychopathy, which is seemingly only about 1 percent of the population (though mostly male apparently).

Re: Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about it [video] [NSFW]

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Post by samastur »

icantthinkofone wrote: post #24

This isn't a case she should be making at all. This is a hacking issue, not any "hatred of women" or anything else she's trying to make it out to be. She's embarrassed and trying to deflect it onto something else. Hacking, yes. Hatred of women and rape issues, no. I'm also having problems with the video showing the very pictures she was so embarrassed about. There is some sort of disconnect there I don't have time to…

Do you find watching images of women taken against her wish respectful?

Pictures shown are not the one that were stolen. Those were the one she took later to reclaim feeling of control. Might not be the way I would cope, but certainly is not a disconnect with anything.

Re: Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about it [video] [NSFW]

#36

Post by tom-lord »

leaveyou wrote: post #10

I made it up to "this were all men" and "this isn't about me, it's about hatred of women" and I remorselessly closed the window as if I stepped into a quarrel that is none of my business. In my universe there is no such thing as "hatred of women" and the psychopathic misogynists are like UFOs. I keep hearing about them but I have never seen any.

I keep hearing about Islamic terrorists, but I haven't seen any.

Doesn't mean they don't exist, or aren't causing problems in the world!

Re: Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about it [video] [NSFW]

#37

Post by fnef »

runarberg wrote: post #26
fnef wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I challenge the notion that online trolls are genuinely hateful, almost regardless of their target. They're just sadists who find pleasure in other's suffering. I think it's horrible and these people deserve rehabilitative punishment by law, but it's silly to label it as hate, or, when the target happens to be female, misogyny.

Exaggeration is a well known and powerful poetic tool. Although hate is not an exaggeration of what is going on, it is an emotionally loaded term that delivers the message clearly. You get all the relevant information from the context, and you get the urgency, and the disgracefulness of the act by using poetic replacement terms.

I agree that it's a powerful tool. It's a short-circuit for logic that, at times, can be useful to apply (such as, for example, wartime when debate can be deadly). I don't think this is one of those times.

If we release our energy as hate and disparagement of harassers without fixing the problem at its core (or even finding out what that is), then all we've done is used exaggeration to make ourselves feel better, and add more poison and fear to the world.

That's why I'm against calling things "misogyny" which aren't. Mind you, I do think misogyny is a real thing and a real problem, but I think it's quite buried in the social media and you'll rarely hear about it.

Real hatred isn't funny, rational, or outrageous enough to be viral, and real hatred doesn't get off on reactions. That's the difference.

Re: Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about it [video] [NSFW]

#38

Post by boomlinde »

icantthinkofone wrote: post #24

This isn't a case she should be making at all. This is a hacking issue, not any "hatred of women" or anything else she's trying to make it out to be. She's embarrassed and trying to deflect it onto something else. Hacking, yes. Hatred of women and rape issues, no. I'm also having problems with the video showing the very pictures she was so embarrassed about. There is some sort of disconnect there I don't have time to…

Surely, having her images spread without her consent and being called a whore upon requesting for them to be removed isn't hacking.

The pictures in the video are also not the ones she was embarrassed about. She explains why she had them taken in the video.

Re: Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about it [video] [NSFW]

#39

Post by maxerickson »

tomp wrote: post #31
icantthinkofone wrote: post #24

This isn't a case she should be making at all. This is a hacking issue, not any "hatred of women" or anything else she's trying to make it out to be. She's embarrassed and trying to deflect it onto something else. Hacking, yes. Hatred of women and rape issues, no. I'm also having problems with the video showing the very pictures she was so embarrassed about. There is some sort of disconnect there I don't have time to…

> This is a hacking issue, not any "hatred of women" or anything else she's trying to make it out to be. Exactly; if anything, it's love and attraction to women; male nudes are much less popular online.

Did you watch the video? Do your parents know ur a slut. is a pretty nasty message to send to someone.

Re: Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about it [video] [NSFW]

#40

Post by huehue »

cmsj wrote: post #5
dstoyanov wrote: post #3

Well if she didn't post her naked pictures in Facebook, even if it was hacked, nobody would get them. Is it not a common sense not to post your naked pictures on the Internet? Especially if you don't want people to look at them...

If you don't wantto have your car stolen it's common sense to not own a car. If you don't want your money to be stolen it's common sense to be broke. If you don't want your kids to be kidnapped it's common sense to remain childless. If you don't want to be murdered it's common sense to commit suicide. Of course people should be aware of risks and manage them appropriately, but it's also possible to not blame them for…

You are comparing mundane things with posting nudes on the net.
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