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"There is no hatred of women" is like saying "There is no hatred of [insert other group here]" If you want to find them, look for the individuals who repeatedly post derogatory comments and hateful comments under any post made by a female.
I challenge the notion that online trolls are genuinely hateful, almost regardless of their target. They're just sadists who find pleasure in other's suffering. I think it's horrible and these people deserve rehabilitative punishment by law, but it's silly to label it as hate, or, when the target happens to be female, misogyny.
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#22I made it up to "this were all men" and "this isn't about me, it's about hatred of women" and I remorselessly closed the window as if I stepped into a quarrel that is none of my business. In my universe there is no such thing as "hatred of women" and the psychopathic misogynists are like UFOs. I keep hearing about them but I have never seen any.
"There is no hatred of women" is like saying "There is no hatred of [insert other group here]" If you want to find them, look for the individuals who repeatedly post derogatory comments and hateful comments under any post made by a female.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I challenge the notion that online trolls are genuinely hateful, almost regardless of their target. They're just sadists who find pleasure in other's suffering. I think it's horrible and these people deserve rehabilitative punishment by law, but it's silly to label it as hate, or, when the target happens to be female, misogyny.
Considering that it appears to disproportionally target women, labeling it "misogyny" seems completely fair, whatever underlying mental disorder they suffer from.
That's a pretty big [citation needed]. All I see is that misogyny is a disproportionally popular news item, which is not at all the same thing.
And if it's just an expression of people's mental disorders, that's not hate, and it's not productive to fixing the issue to call it hate when it's not.
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#24I'm also having problems with the video showing the very pictures she was so embarrassed about. There is some sort of disconnect there I don't have time to go into.
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#25It seems like this could be a useful area for a honeypot. Take photographs of a willing model (who knows what they're going to be used for); "dox" this model (release the images with fake details); collect information of the harassing people who send messages. I'm not sure what you then do with the information of harassers. Ploce in the UK spend a lot of time dealing with online a use. It might account for about half…
I think the problem would be entrapment. The laws differ from country to country but I'm pretty certain that a honeypot wouldn't be legal here.
Which is unfortunate.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
"There is no hatred of women" is like saying "There is no hatred of [insert other group here]" If you want to find them, look for the individuals who repeatedly post derogatory comments and hateful comments under any post made by a female.
I challenge the notion that online trolls are genuinely hateful, almost regardless of their target. They're just sadists who find pleasure in other's suffering. I think it's horrible and these people deserve rehabilitative punishment by law, but it's silly to label it as hate, or, when the target happens to be female, misogyny.
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#27I made it up to "this were all men" and "this isn't about me, it's about hatred of women" and I remorselessly closed the window as if I stepped into a quarrel that is none of my business. In my universe there is no such thing as "hatred of women" and the psychopathic misogynists are like UFOs. I keep hearing about them but I have never seen any.
What universe is that? One where all the foaming-at-the-mouth misogynists trolls have had their Internet license of abusing people protected by long distance and anonymity revoked? The fact that you "keep hearing about them" should give you a hint. Women who come to the attention of a subsection of Internet trolls do find themselves harassed online (death threats, rape threats, etc.). See Gamergate or Adria Richards…
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#28Well if she didn't post her naked pictures in Facebook, even if it was hacked, nobody would get them. Is it not a common sense not to post your naked pictures on the Internet? Especially if you don't want people to look at them...
Nice victim blaming there. So she was too dumb, and she got what was coming? Or even worse, with the "if you don't want people to look at them" hint, perhaps she wanted this. Maybe deep down. Subconsciously or something. That's a particularly classy form of victim blaming that. Doubly so since you created an account on HN specifically to post it.
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#29That being sad I disagree with the whole subtext of the story: that these people get off on the idea of a non consenting victim.
quotes from http://www.hystericalfeminisms.com/consent/: "It’s one thing to be sexualised by people who are attracted to you, but it’s quite another thing when the lack of a ‘you’, when dehumanization, is the main factor."
"Take ‘creepshots’, a global phenomenon which entails photographing women without their knowledge or consent, in order to share them in a sexual context online. On similar sites, people link to Facebook pages asking if anyone can hack or find more pictures of the girl. Here, again, women are used as objects whose lack of consent, of participation, provides the reason and allure of their sexualisation."
"This dynamic is a commonplace online and is a concrete manifestation of a larger discourse around the female body, the notion that it is erotic to sexualise someone who is unaware. We all know the tropes: the sexy teacher/student/nurse/waiter/bartender/doctor. All jobs, if staffed by women, can be sexualised. What is sexy is not the job, not even the woman, but the fact that while the woman is just doing her job you are secretly sexualising her."
Now I am sure there are people that find that arousing but I've just completed high school-university stage and my insight in my peers is a bit different. The people that say stuff like that do it mainly because they find the girl desirable, but have a problem communicating that in a normal way. In other words they are socially inexperienced and that's their way of talking to someone of sexual interest. Overanalyzing this might say that they use insults and threats as a shield to rejection. Pictures of naked people are wanted because they are pictures of naked people. Context matters and in some edge cases may be turned in a fetish but the main allure of almost all "creepshots" is sexual desirability and not the lack of consent.
Similarly I've talked to people that raped and people that were nearly stopped and the reason was always sexual tension(small sample, date rapes, rape = sex/fingering w/o consent). Control? Maybe but not the main reason at all.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
"There is no hatred of women" is like saying "There is no hatred of [insert other group here]" If you want to find them, look for the individuals who repeatedly post derogatory comments and hateful comments under any post made by a female.
I'm not exaggerating here for the sake of the argument but I really don't find derogatory comments toward women in my daily routine reading. I read HN, reddit, tech magazines, blogs, regular newspapers (many local) and most of them have little to none censoring and people say harsh things towards other persons (stars, VIPs, judges, lawyers, cops, politicians for example). I admit I don't read magazines and blogs targ…