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KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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It is because that the "best" apps for Linux distros are written with GTK the reason for KDE being much less mainstream than Gnome?

Are you sure about that? I would think the exact opposite, that there are more good QT/KDElibs programs then GTK ones. And more recently more and more apps switch to QT (like wireshark for example). And I heard somewhere that Gnome is very popular in the US, but everywhere else KDE is slightly more favored (apart from all the small DEs and WMs).

QuickTime has nothing to do with KDE.

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure about that? I would think the exact opposite, that there are more good QT/KDElibs programs then GTK ones. And more recently more and more apps switch to QT (like wireshark for example). And I heard somewhere that Gnome is very popular in the US, but everywhere else KDE is slightly more favored (apart from all the small DEs and WMs).

QuickTime has nothing to do with KDE.

He's talking about Qt, http://qt-project.org/

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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Oi. I wish the nice designers of Silicon Valley could give some "pull requests" easily to the KDE team. The design is such a mix of things that don't go together -- some places of translucency, others don't, the pop ups are mostly flat yet the calculator has shadows, the search results and bookmarks have borders on every row yet the launch menu doesn't, the spacing between items in the left side of dolphin is off (to…

>> "I wish the nice designers of Silicon Valley could give some "pull requests" easily to the KDE team. The design is such a mix of things that don't go together"

Is this maybe due to the nature of open source? If you look at the big design teams in SV they are typically run by a dictator (e.g. Jony Ive or Duartes at Google). Maybe for good design that's necessary or you end up with a large mix of conflicting ideas.

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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A big raised middle finger goes to the developers who thought it was a good idea to make it impossible to opt out of akonadi, nepomuk, baloo, activities, monochrome tray icons, that fucking cashew icon and having an additional separate colour scheme just for the task bar. All of KDE is configurable and can be switched off, except these "innovations". Still using KDE, because it's the least bad desktop environment, bu…

It is (or at least was) possible to opt-out, I'm using none of those with KDE 4.14.3-r1

That said the only reason I was able to accomplish this (and it was convoluted) is because Gentoo (Linux distro) allows me to customise & compile software with specific settings.

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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A big raised middle finger goes to the developers who thought it was a good idea to make it impossible to opt out of akonadi, nepomuk, baloo, activities, monochrome tray icons, that fucking cashew icon and having an additional separate colour scheme just for the task bar. All of KDE is configurable and can be switched off, except these "innovations". Still using KDE, because it's the least bad desktop environment, bu…

It must be awesome for the KDE developers to have such appreciative users with such constructive attitudes. It really makes you wonder why so many people who volunteer on open source projects get burned out on it after a while, or why so many mailing lists/forums/etc. for those projects have a unfortunate tendency to devolve into flamewars, bikeshedding, whining, and everyone crapping on everyone else for no particul…

Never saw any flamewars on KDE forums. Users there are very helpful.

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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Oi. I wish the nice designers of Silicon Valley could give some "pull requests" easily to the KDE team. The design is such a mix of things that don't go together -- some places of translucency, others don't, the pop ups are mostly flat yet the calculator has shadows, the search results and bookmarks have borders on every row yet the launch menu doesn't, the spacing between items in the left side of dolphin is off (to…

KDE has a great Visual Design Team. Also they rely on user feedback for their UX design.

https://vdesign.kde.org/

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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It is because that the "best" apps for Linux distros are written with GTK the reason for KDE being much less mainstream than Gnome?

I'd say it's got more to do with Ubuntu initially being Gnome-based than anything else. Also, KDE (until very recently) wasn't helped by it's unusually hideous default theme and icon set.

Other distributions favored Gnome, like Fedora and RedHat, which has been dominating the enterprise. And maybe I'm wrong, but compared to other distros, Kubuntu was always in good shape. Back in the day when Canonical was distributing CDs, I got one as well with Kubuntu on it, so it was officially supported.

For me I used to prefer Gnome because of the apps I was using. OpenOffice or Firefox seemed to be out of place in KDE. Plus I preferred a simpler environment, of course nowadays they've gone overboard.

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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I used SuSE Linux with KDE 2 and KDE 3 more than 10 years ago. It was a good Win95 style shell with many customization options back then. Later I switched to Gnome 2 because of the KDE 4.0 fiasco and no one forked off KDE 3. Thankfully Ubuntu decided to change the shell, as Gnome 3 was another fiasco. Nowadays I just connect from a Mac, Windows, Android or iOS shell to Linux servers. It seems both Gnome 3 and KDE 4 (…

So you not try KDE >= 4.4 ?

I can understand why you wouldn't like initial versions of KDE 4 , but since 4.4 has become one of the best desktops that anyone could use.

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