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KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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Pleasantly surprised by:

> Frameworks 5 and Plasma 5.2 form a fairly lean pair compared to historic KDE releases; This is mostly anecdotal and other factors are in play, but no matter how you slice it Plasma 5 uses less RAM, somewhere between 20-40% less RAM is consumed on a freshly booted machine, exactly how much mileage you’ll get out of it will widely vary depending on your system, configuration, and distribution.

(on p3; is there a pages=all type URL hack for wordpress?)

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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Maybe it's a well-researched article, but am I the only one that bothers the structure of the website? I am not able to read it. The text is just in the middle, really big white space left and right. Than there is this big wallpaper on every page. By the way, why so many pages? Sorry for off-topic.

Maybe they did that for sake of responsiveness? The site looks really good from my phone.

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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A big raised middle finger goes to the developers who thought it was a good idea to make it impossible to opt out of akonadi, nepomuk, baloo, activities, monochrome tray icons, that fucking cashew icon and having an additional separate colour scheme just for the task bar. All of KDE is configurable and can be switched off, except these "innovations". Still using KDE, because it's the least bad desktop environment, bu…

It must be awesome for the KDE developers to have such appreciative users with such constructive attitudes. It really makes you wonder why so many people who volunteer on open source projects get burned out on it after a while, or why so many mailing lists/forums/etc. for those projects have a unfortunate tendency to devolve into flamewars, bikeshedding, whining, and everyone crapping on everyone else for no particular reason. Hooray for human nature, huh?

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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It is because that the "best" apps for Linux distros are written with GTK the reason for KDE being much less mainstream than Gnome?

Are you sure about that? I would think the exact opposite, that there are more good QT/KDElibs programs then GTK ones. And more recently more and more apps switch to QT (like wireshark for example). And I heard somewhere that Gnome is very popular in the US, but everywhere else KDE is slightly more favored (apart from all the small DEs and WMs).

Was popular, XFCE is now more used than KDE in the rest of the world.

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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It is because that the "best" apps for Linux distros are written with GTK the reason for KDE being much less mainstream than Gnome?

Slightly related, but can someone clear up for me (a person who occasionally administers a headless Fedora box but doesn't venture into desktop Linux land) how different WMs and distros work when I want to install a particular piece of software? Does a desktop application have to be specifically written to run in KDE or Gnome or Unity? Or does it just look funny if I try to run a K* application in Gnome?

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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Oi. I wish the nice designers of Silicon Valley could give some "pull requests" easily to the KDE team. The design is such a mix of things that don't go together -- some places of translucency, others don't, the pop ups are mostly flat yet the calculator has shadows, the search results and bookmarks have borders on every row yet the launch menu doesn't, the spacing between items in the left side of dolphin is off (too close), the icons are seemingly all over the place (the life preserver is more photo realistic while the hard drive is more cartoony), etc.

I know there are mailing lists and whatnot for this but if the process of helping was easier for normal (and good) designers to help out a little I think we all would benefit. Or at least if you're going to copy Apple pay attention to their ratios.

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure about that? I would think the exact opposite, that there are more good QT/KDElibs programs then GTK ones. And more recently more and more apps switch to QT (like wireshark for example). And I heard somewhere that Gnome is very popular in the US, but everywhere else KDE is slightly more favored (apart from all the small DEs and WMs).

Was popular, XFCE is now more used than KDE in the rest of the world.

Is that true? XFCE was my favorite DE.

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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It is because that the "best" apps for Linux distros are written with GTK the reason for KDE being much less mainstream than Gnome?

Slightly related, but can someone clear up for me (a person who occasionally administers a headless Fedora box but doesn't venture into desktop Linux land) how different WMs and distros work when I want to install a particular piece of software? Does a desktop application have to be specifically written to run in KDE or Gnome or Unity? Or does it just look funny if I try to run a K* application in Gnome?

Generally the UI is written with one of the two big GUI toolkits: GTK (Gnome) or Qt (KDE). If you run Gnome, you get GTK and all the apps work without needing to download anything else, but if you have Gnome and want an app using the Qt framework, you'll need to download the Qt libraries, which can be substantial. Even after downloading the Qt libraries, though, the application might still look weird, since it's not a native GTK UI.

The state of WMs on Linux is really, really more complicated than it needs to be.

Re: KDE's Plasma 5.2 – The Quintissential Breakdown

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post #3

It is because that the "best" apps for Linux distros are written with GTK the reason for KDE being much less mainstream than Gnome?

Slightly related, but can someone clear up for me (a person who occasionally administers a headless Fedora box but doesn't venture into desktop Linux land) how different WMs and distros work when I want to install a particular piece of software? Does a desktop application have to be specifically written to run in KDE or Gnome or Unity? Or does it just look funny if I try to run a K* application in Gnome?

They look a bit funny and take a bit longer to start up. If you are on a Gnome desktop then the GTK libs will be already loaded when you try to open Gedit but its gonna need to load all the Qt libs into memory if you want to open KolourPaint.

IMO, its more of an inconvenience than a big deal breaker.

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