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You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Post by yummyfajitas »

hga wrote: post #30
ivanche wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate this a bit, for us outside of USA? I'm genuinely interested - what are advantages for company to hire H1B candidate(s)?

Pay a fraction of a citizen or permanent resident's salary to a quasi-indentured servant, in that if you fire them it's iffy if they can find another H-1B gig before they have to leave the country. In the one case I observed first hand while at Lucent in 2001, an arguably more qualified and very smart Jamaican doing the same job as me was paid $48K (H-1B salaries have to be posted) while I was making $80K. He knew he…

It is difficult to find a replacement job in 30 days if fired. Its not hard to quietly look for a better job while on an h1b. And once company A already sponsored the visa, finding company B to extend it is pretty easy.

Its very far from indentured servitude unless you come to the states and refuse to speak to anyone outside your community.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Post by Jgrubb »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #18

All this tells me is they didn't want to say why they rejected you, lack of a required experience is a benign excuse. The reality might be you were too old, too young, too smart, too stupid, wrong race, looked like the guy who ran off with the managers wife, who knows. I would never expect to learn anything from a job rejection, or for that matter from a lost sale.

I've been rejected from numerous job attempts and I learned a lot from the majority of them. Whether it was the lack of fundamentals on data structures and (sometimes) stupid algorithmic interview questions, or a CTO with whom I totally clicked but the founders just didn't get me, or "ew, I'd kill myself if I had to work in this office", most of them were learning opportunities.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Post by jaggederest »

Animats wrote: post #4

Would more than one year of experience with Rails be useful? It's supposed to be an easy approach to web development.

I've been at it since 2006 and I still learn things every day, fwiw.

It's kind of like asking if it takes very long to learn to use STL, or the standard C library. Sure, the libraries themselves are not that long if you're reading them straight through, but the capabilities they enable are pretty vast.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Post by mgkimsal »

The reply was perhaps worded too quickly, but the ad itself indicates

"If you’ve been programming professionally for around a decade, have a few years of full stack web experience (Rails, Django, PHP, Java Spring, and similar), and love learning, you’ll be a great fit."

I don't understand how any of those listed technologies qualify as "full stack", but that's another discussion. Their main point was someone with 10+ year of experience, and experience with some of those technologies on top of that.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Post by rabble »

I've got more than 10 years of rails experience. I started with Rails 0.5 in July 2004. So looking at the calendar we're at 10.5 years. There were only like 5 people including DHH when i joined the #rubyonrails irc channel. And on top of that i've done lots of other things in the rails world, like managing people since then. The thing is, rails has changed so much, i'm not sure how much value there is in that. If i were hiring it'd be a red flag that somebody only stayed doing rails for 10 years. A good developer learns new languages and frameworks. A language a year and all that.

Perhaps the hiring drone was saying 10 years of web development experience maybe?

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Post by sehr »

rabble wrote: post #36

I've got more than 10 years of rails experience. I started with Rails 0.5 in July 2004. So looking at the calendar we're at 10.5 years. There were only like 5 people including DHH when i joined the #rubyonrails irc channel. And on top of that i've done lots of other things in the rails world, like managing people since then. The thing is, rails has changed so much, i'm not sure how much value there is in that. If i w…

Or maybe 10 years between the both of them?

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Post by jusben1369 »

philliphaydon wrote: post #23

"there was also some confusion as to Bootstrap. According to the project manager Bootstrap is also responsive. (No kidding?) I said that’s great because I use Twitter Bootstrap and that is responsive as well. (I was playing games at that point) Then I was told they where not the same? I don’t know if that was the breaking point, but it was amusing." ^ This whole thing makes 0 sense to me. I can't tell who is wrong wi…

I'm surprised no one here has taken him to task for that horrible first sentence. I can only imagine the response on HN if the roles were reversed.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Post by Kiro »

mgkimsal wrote: post #35

The reply was perhaps worded too quickly, but the ad itself indicates "If you’ve been programming professionally for around a decade, have a few years of full stack web experience (Rails, Django, PHP, Java Spring, and similar), and love learning, you’ll be a great fit." I don't understand how any of those listed technologies qualify as "full stack", but that's another discussion. Their main point was someone with 10+…

What's your definition of full stack?
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