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Corruption Perceptions Index 2013

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Re: Corruption Perceptions Index 2013

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As others here have noted, this doesn't seem to be measuring corruption. Instead, and after reading their meager "methodology" (we compile these results from "international elite"), it appears that what this is measuring instead is a country's business friendliness.

And that's a fine thing to measure, but don't call it "corruption". It does a disservice to us in fundamentally corrupt yet business-friendly countries.

Re: Corruption Perceptions Index 2013

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If you're a cynic then the key goes from cheap (dark colored countries) to expensive (lighter colored countries) corruption.

Italy seems to be an outlier in this respect: faring worse than Portugal, Spain and Turkey. Chile and Uruguay seem to be perceived as less corrupt as their GDP per capita would lead you to think. I think we need a scatterplot! With flags: http://imgur.com/Ld0bXTO With names: http://imgur.com/vX7dsTV

This is not a surprise, though. While I'm not Italian myself, I can attest that Italy (more specifically: The south of Italy) has a Europe-wide reputation for corruption.

It seems that things have been getting better lately, or maybe the perception of corruption in Italy was overblown.

Who knows?

Anyway, with this in mind, I'd take the color of Italy as a positive sign, namely that it is not too dark, on its way to yellow bliss.

Re: Corruption Perceptions Index 2013

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The only one there that doesn't line up with my perceptions is Chile. I went there this time last year and their police and officials were nothing but transparent and professional. The fact that it isn't the same color as Canada must primarily be due to a general bias against South America as a whole.

A bias against South America by the people who are reporting their perceptions of corruption in their own countries?

Not a bias, corruption runs way too deep:

Elected Mexican president spent 12 times above the limit!:

Limit: 26 million

Spent: USD $460 million!

http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=367033

Re: Corruption Perceptions Index 2013

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post #31

As others here have noted, this doesn't seem to be measuring corruption. Instead, and after reading their meager "methodology" (we compile these results from "international elite"), it appears that what this is measuring instead is a country's business friendliness. And that's a fine thing to measure, but don't call it "corruption". It does a disservice to us in fundamentally corrupt yet business-friendly countries.

It's the Corruption Perception Index, not the Absolute Corruption Index.

Debate the semantics of the word "corruption" as much as you want, but the index is found to have a strong correlation with black market activity and an "overabundance of regulation or unnecessary restriction of business activity". [1]

That doesn't sound like the countries are business friendly to me.

[1] http://rd.springer.com/article/10.1023%2FA%3A1013882225402

Re: Corruption Perceptions Index 2013

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are looking for more established companies I would suggest LEGO [1] and Danfoss [2]. You can find many positions on their sites that could be interesting for HN crowd. [1] http://jobs.lego.com/en-us/searchpage [2] http://jobs.danfoss.com/jobs/ And Denmark is a Microsoft-land as far I know. So keep that in mind.

And Denmark is a Microsoft-land as far I know. For startups, no. There's as large an open source scene here as anywhere else. Ruby on Rails was started by a Dane (David Heinemeier Hansson), as was PHP, C++, and the V8 JavaScript engine used in Node.

IIRC, RedHat has a presence in Copenhagen. On the other hand, from what I understand, the government policy about open source is best summarized as "the less the better".

Re: Corruption Perceptions Index 2013

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It's a list of perceived corruption, not of corruption.

I know that(I've lived in countries that were at the time last on the list). But did they survey North Koreans to discuss said perception ? Is "corrupt" really an equivalent of "bad and arbitrary and awfully run" ? To me those are two different things.

Corruption is a vague term that describes a whole spectrum of behaviors. I don't know much about NK, but I grew up in a country with planned economy and the most visible aspect of corruption there was rampant bribery. It looks like NK has problems with this too: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/NG13Dg01.html

Re: Corruption Perceptions Index 2013

#38

Makes me want to move the denmark :)

It's a nice place to be, though it can be hard to get close to the natives, as confirmed by about everybody in my Danish course.

On a totally unrelated note, if there is any HNer in the Århus area, I could totally agree to a get-together.

Re: Corruption Perceptions Index 2013

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If you're a cynic then the key goes from cheap (dark colored countries) to expensive (lighter colored countries) corruption.

I don't understand how you're pricing corruption like this. The Chinese get a discount on their corruption? What does that mean?

Re: Corruption Perceptions Index 2013

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Denmark is a Microsoft-land as far I know. For startups, no. There's as large an open source scene here as anywhere else. Ruby on Rails was started by a Dane (David Heinemeier Hansson), as was PHP, C++, and the V8 JavaScript engine used in Node.

IIRC, RedHat has a presence in Copenhagen. On the other hand, from what I understand, the government policy about open source is best summarized as "the less the better".

Not sure what you mean by that. The government is generally open to open source (http://digitaliser.dk/resource/2320552), but the two biggest providers of governmental web services don't really use open source. But why is that relevant if you want to seek employment in a Danish private company or start your own company in Denmark?
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