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Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Post by zaraflan »

ef4 wrote: post #12

I think the ISPs are going to eventually regret this. Once you get a reputation for having a crappy product, it's hard to lose it. And they will get that reputation. Their own advertising has often touted how well their service can stream Netflix. People are already primed to judge them on it, because the industy's own advertising has taught them to . Stupid stupid.

Comcast/Verizon/AT&T/et al already have terrible reputations. They also have dominant local monopolies and the legislative power to defend them.

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Post by RyanZAG »

colinbartlett wrote: post #14

I would not take some offhanded remark from an outsourced, minimum wage, offshore worker as confirmation of anything.

By far the most correct observation. These guys are just following a script - they probably don't even know what half of the words mean. Please don't read anything into it or assume the outsourced support is somehow privy to anything at all that goes on inside Verizon other than what the FAQ system he's using tells him on screen.

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Post by paulgb »

Xylakant wrote: post #28
leobelle wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix is already doing this: http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/usa

A rough look at the data suggests that Verizon DLS used to be around a stable 1.4 Mbps until October 2013 and is on a continuous decline since then with a current low of 1.17 Mbps. That would support the OPs theory, but it's only a single datapoint that may have other underlying causes.

Interestingly, the net neutrality ruling wasn't until last month.

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Post by squigs25 »

RyanZAG wrote: post #32
colinbartlett wrote: post #14

I would not take some offhanded remark from an outsourced, minimum wage, offshore worker as confirmation of anything.

By far the most correct observation. These guys are just following a script - they probably don't even know what half of the words mean. Please don't read anything into it or assume the outsourced support is somehow privy to anything at all that goes on inside Verizon other than what the FAQ system he's using tells him on screen.

I wouldn't read into this even if it wasn't an outsourced support person.

But the proof is in the pudding, the speed tests speak for themselves, no?

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Post by twoodfin »

Xylakant wrote: post #28
leobelle wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix is already doing this: http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/usa

A rough look at the data suggests that Verizon DLS used to be around a stable 1.4 Mbps until October 2013 and is on a continuous decline since then with a current low of 1.17 Mbps. That would support the OPs theory, but it's only a single datapoint that may have other underlying causes.

I believe that's a few months after Netflix started heavily using Cogent as a provider, and thus Cogent's peering disputes with Verizon and Comcast began:

http://gigaom.com/2013/06/17/having-problems-with-your-netfl...

My company uses Cogent as an ISP, and remote workers have had nothing but trouble trying to use VPN and other connections back home via Comcast or Verizon because the Cogent/Comcast+Verizon peering points are severely overloaded, dropping packets at a 5%+ clip at some times during the day.

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