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Who remembers 'Chernobyl Gal? The biker who takes solitary rides through the Chernobyl closed zone, and publishes photo journals of them. These are her sites.
From an entirely different angle, there's probably a lot of truth in this person's comments too: http://www.barnhardt.biz/2014/01/23/ukraine-you-better-pay-a...
One thing really stood out to me about this protest, and that is how isolated and targeted it is against government. The writer mentioned how no shopkeepers are affected, and that protesting is specifically barricaded around the government district. Irrespective of the violence and damage taking place, that there is no collateral means that we can't detract from the focus of the issue.
That is very hard to believe :) and naive assertion, all reports point out to very aggressive 'protesters' that attack security forces to provoke their reaction and that whole nature of protest is changing towards violence and aggression.
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Same here. It's like no-one can think for themselves.
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These pictures represent violence and this is somehow reported as peaceful protest. I don't think people are 'sheep' but there is a lot of wishful thinking that we will accept this as reported and not try to reason ourselves.
One thing really stood out to me about this protest, and that is how isolated and targeted it is against government. The writer mentioned how no shopkeepers are affected, and that protesting is specifically barricaded around the government district. Irrespective of the violence and damage taking place, that there is no collateral means that we can't detract from the focus of the issue.
That is very hard to believe :) and naive assertion, all reports point out to very aggressive 'protesters' that attack security forces to provoke their reaction and that whole nature of protest is changing towards violence and aggression.
Read the post then if you disagree present some evidence. What "all reports"? Here's a balanced one that disagrees with your claim:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/world/europe/ukrainian-pre...
By 'protestors' do you mean they are not protestors? If so what are they?
I suspect you get all your information from Russian government sources. Right?
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who do you think is being manipulated? Statements like that are useless without some elaboration.
The protesters are manipulated into thinking that joining EU and getting rid of Yanukovich is somehow the first step to prosperity... And the blogosphere is manipulated into buying this as some kind of completely spontaneous grass roots movement. Sure people want change.. But this is bankrolled elsewhere.. I bet it wasn't that expensive either.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy You'd think oppressive leaders would learn that lesson by now. But no, it seems we're more likely doomed to repeat it in cycles, over and over again. I wonder what those politicians who come up with the idea of "hey, let's make protesting virtually impossible. That will all our problems!". They need to understan…
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who do you think is being manipulated? Statements like that are useless without some elaboration.
The protesters are manipulated into thinking that joining EU and getting rid of Yanukovich is somehow the first step to prosperity... And the blogosphere is manipulated into buying this as some kind of completely spontaneous grass roots movement. Sure people want change.. But this is bankrolled elsewhere.. I bet it wasn't that expensive either.
BTW-Do you get your news from RT?
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A lot of what seems to be grassroots could be aided, and perhaps even orchestrated, by sophisticated groups with a political agenda, e.g. the CIA. It would only take around 10-20 bloggers to create the illusion that the majority people in the country felt a certain way. EDIT: and nowadays, they wouldn't just blog, they would post to Reddit, and maybe even HN.
True enough. But my extended social circle includes a number of people of Ukrainian nationality and/or descent. Everything I've heard from them (which is, granted, not a lot ; I haven't been tracking these events terribly actively, let alone vis-à-vis their perspectives) tends to corroborate what I'm seeing in this blog post, at least.
If you just looked at educated Chinese immigrants during the last 50 years, you would never guess at the overwhelming support for the communist party.