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Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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On the internet, nobody can see you fail. Peer pressure, weekly dinners, demo day - you can't really replicate that on the web. As for organising in Europe, where? London is very expensive, and nothing else springs to mind.

I understand that Copenhagen and Amsterdam are thriving tech centers. They are also full of English speakers and beautiful women.

Copenhagen is awesome, but realty is expensive. Though Malmo, Sweden is quite close and it is cheaper.

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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I am interested, though I need someone to invite me to US to let me apply for visa. P.S. That is basically what I was talking about yesterday ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=70071 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=70107 ) P.P.S. I am interested to move, to communicate frequently and to share apartments to reduce costs.

Where are you now? We are coming from Argentina so we have immigration challenges too. Does anybody know if it's legal for us to work on our startup in the US without having a work visa (if we aren't taking a salary) _after_ we incorporate in the US?

I have a US work visa, when I first came here I came with an E visa (Executive or something), because I worked for a finnish start-up that was launching their US operations here. I later heard that it's a good visa class (not sure why) and quite difficult to get.

I'm from Finland btw, your home country does affect your chances with some of the visa types.

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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On the internet, nobody can see you fail. Peer pressure, weekly dinners, demo day - you can't really replicate that on the web. As for organising in Europe, where? London is very expensive, and nothing else springs to mind.

Spain? Never been there though :)

Spain is hugely bureaucratic and their social security system is insane for startup founders.

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Spain? Never been there though :)

Spain is hugely bureaucratic and their social security system is insane for startup founders.

any need to interfere with their social security and bureaucracy being incorporated elsewhere?

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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The silicon valley probably ain't a bad place to be but: - there is this thing called the Interweb that helps communicate efficiently from all over the world (I find amusing the idea that you have to be in a certain place in one country to work on Internet stuff; doesn't sound like "eating your own dogfood" if you ask me); - instead of all european entrepreneurs moving to the US, why not organize in Europe? Most peop…

On the internet, nobody can see you fail. Peer pressure, weekly dinners, demo day - you can't really replicate that on the web. As for organising in Europe, where? London is very expensive, and nothing else springs to mind.

Cambridge has a lot of tech companies on it's science park these days.

http://www.cambridgesciencepark.co.uk/companies.php

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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The silicon valley probably ain't a bad place to be but: - there is this thing called the Interweb that helps communicate efficiently from all over the world (I find amusing the idea that you have to be in a certain place in one country to work on Internet stuff; doesn't sound like "eating your own dogfood" if you ask me); - instead of all european entrepreneurs moving to the US, why not organize in Europe? Most peop…

On the internet, nobody can see you fail. Peer pressure, weekly dinners, demo day - you can't really replicate that on the web. As for organising in Europe, where? London is very expensive, and nothing else springs to mind.

Within europe the UK and Ireland are best in terms of social security and tax law. Beware of countries with minimum social security contributions of which there are many. On another thread someone suggested destinations close enough to London to commute.

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Spain is hugely bureaucratic and their social security system is insane for startup founders.

any need to interfere with their social security and bureaucracy being incorporated elsewhere?

If you want to stay on the legal side you must tell them. Unless you have no income from your business I guess.

edit: I'm assuming you're talking about more than just 3 months on a beach ;-)

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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> have to be PG never said "have to", he said you'll have better luck, everything else being equal. > complicated immigration issues. This is very true. It was even before 9/11 - search for Torvalds in this page: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9800E0DC1039F... > organize in Europe? That's where the problems start - where in Europe? England and Ireland are probably the most company friendly countries.

Do it in Finland. Tons of highly skilled workforce, lots of other startups, etc. I don't think the bureaucracy bit is too much of a challenge, especially when compared to US immigrations.

What is the cost of living there? How about social security contributions and health insurance while you're not making any (or just a little) money?
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