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Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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The silicon valley probably ain't a bad place to be but: - there is this thing called the Interweb that helps communicate efficiently from all over the world (I find amusing the idea that you have to be in a certain place in one country to work on Internet stuff; doesn't sound like "eating your own dogfood" if you ask me); - instead of all european entrepreneurs moving to the US, why not organize in Europe? Most peop…

> have to be PG never said "have to", he said you'll have better luck, everything else being equal. > complicated immigration issues. This is very true. It was even before 9/11 - search for Torvalds in this page: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9800E0DC1039F... > organize in Europe? That's where the problems start - where in Europe? England and Ireland are probably the most company friendly countries.

Do it in Finland. Tons of highly skilled workforce, lots of other startups, etc. I don't think the bureaucracy bit is too much of a challenge, especially when compared to US immigrations.

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Well if you weren't interested why did you even apply at all?

You misread my post, it isn't a rhetorical question, but an call for action. I've clarified it now.

You should not call it 'rejects', but 'YCommunity' or something like that. If I were in the area, I'd be interested, but I'm not a YC reject (I'm a didn't even apply:-) Heck, maybe some of the YC-accepted would be interested in meeting up and sharing information.

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You misread my post, it isn't a rhetorical question, but an call for action. I've clarified it now.

You should not call it 'rejects', but 'YCommunity' or something like that. If I were in the area, I'd be interested, but I'm not a YC reject (I'm a didn't even apply:-) Heck, maybe some of the YC-accepted would be interested in meeting up and sharing information.

I don't care how to call this community. Name is not that important comparing to the value of community itself :)

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I am interested, though I need someone to invite me to US to let me apply for visa. P.S. That is basically what I was talking about yesterday ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=70071 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=70107 ) P.P.S. I am interested to move, to communicate frequently and to share apartments to reduce costs.

The silicon valley probably ain't a bad place to be but: - there is this thing called the Interweb that helps communicate efficiently from all over the world (I find amusing the idea that you have to be in a certain place in one country to work on Internet stuff; doesn't sound like "eating your own dogfood" if you ask me); - instead of all european entrepreneurs moving to the US, why not organize in Europe? Most peop…

On the internet, nobody can see you fail. Peer pressure, weekly dinners, demo day - you can't really replicate that on the web.

As for organising in Europe, where? London is very expensive, and nothing else springs to mind.

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The silicon valley probably ain't a bad place to be but: - there is this thing called the Interweb that helps communicate efficiently from all over the world (I find amusing the idea that you have to be in a certain place in one country to work on Internet stuff; doesn't sound like "eating your own dogfood" if you ask me); - instead of all european entrepreneurs moving to the US, why not organize in Europe? Most peop…

On the internet, nobody can see you fail. Peer pressure, weekly dinners, demo day - you can't really replicate that on the web. As for organising in Europe, where? London is very expensive, and nothing else springs to mind.

Spain? Never been there though :)

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> have to be PG never said "have to", he said you'll have better luck, everything else being equal. > complicated immigration issues. This is very true. It was even before 9/11 - search for Torvalds in this page: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9800E0DC1039F... > organize in Europe? That's where the problems start - where in Europe? England and Ireland are probably the most company friendly countries.

Do it in Finland. Tons of highly skilled workforce, lots of other startups, etc. I don't think the bureaucracy bit is too much of a challenge, especially when compared to US immigrations.

I'm actually a US citizen, but I'm sick of silicon valley and don't really fancy going back, unless it's for my wife (she's in biotech, and they're way more cluster-dependent than we are in computers).

Part of the reason I don't want to go back there is quality of life issues. While I'm sure Finland is a nice place for many things, it looks too cold and flat for my tastes. Also, the language is supposedly not very easy, and even though most people probably speak english well, it's always a plus to be able to integrate as much as possible.

Anyway, that's just my personal take on it, which comes down to my tastes, not anything objectively wrong.

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The silicon valley probably ain't a bad place to be but: - there is this thing called the Interweb that helps communicate efficiently from all over the world (I find amusing the idea that you have to be in a certain place in one country to work on Internet stuff; doesn't sound like "eating your own dogfood" if you ask me); - instead of all european entrepreneurs moving to the US, why not organize in Europe? Most peop…

On the internet, nobody can see you fail. Peer pressure, weekly dinners, demo day - you can't really replicate that on the web. As for organising in Europe, where? London is very expensive, and nothing else springs to mind.

SV is very expensive. I think London is a perfectly good place.

John.

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On the internet, nobody can see you fail. Peer pressure, weekly dinners, demo day - you can't really replicate that on the web. As for organising in Europe, where? London is very expensive, and nothing else springs to mind.

SV is very expensive. I think London is a perfectly good place. John.

Isn't London expensive too?
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