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I want the NBN
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Re: I want the NBN
#32Step 1 (now): Fibre to the node Step 2 (later, on an incremental basis): Fibre to the home Why do we need to do both steps at the same time? The last mile is incredibly expensive and difficult (as the slow rollout of Labour's scheme has demonstrated). Doing fibre to the node now doesn't stop us from having it to the home at a later point in time, as demands increase.
A good mate of mine owns a fibre splicing business and has been doing predominantly NBN work for the last couple of years. He's fairly ambivalent because about the prospect of FTTN because much of the copper network is in such poor condition that it will need to be replaced. In essence he doesn't regard the FTTN plan as cheaper or more deliverable -- and he'll quite happily bid for the work.
NBN Co allegedly signed a an awful lot of new contracts prior to entering caretaker mode. During the election campaign Turnbull promised that these contracts will be honoured. I'm more concerned that this will result in a two-tier NBN, with over a million homes with FTTH, and the rest left behind on a 2nd tier system.
Perhaps Ziggy will set the Government straight...
Re: I want the NBN
#33I'll just leave Shaun Micallef's segment on Tony Abbott's NBN here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-6E5yX1E0U
Re: I want the NBN
#34Good to see this one up on HN.
I've been running http://www.weneedthenbn.com/ since Saturday night, and it's been getting a bit of traction, too.
My phone call to my local MP wasn't exactly promising - while I couldn't talk directly to the MP (although I didn't expect to), the person who answered seemed generally uninterested in anything that I had to say, and was unaware of the technical differences (other than "the LNP plan is cheaper").
I hope we can make a difference here, and there seems to be a lot of support for it. Even if 1% of the people who signed the petition called/emailed/wrote to their local member, we might have a chance of making a difference.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is exactly the problem. Also, the vox populi interviews in newspaper from older people saying "25 mbps is fast enough" makes me rage so hard. Oh, 25 Mbps is fast enough? So if I were to offer you $25 or $1000 which would you take? Ugh. The NBN is a good idea, but poorly sold to the older generation who cannot seem to grasp the idea of its importance,
> 25 mbps is fast enough Of course it's fast enough! You can fill your entire 640 kB of RAM (who needs that much anyway?) in 200ms with that raw speed.
What's a kB? :p
Re: I want the NBN
#36Good to see this one up on HN. I've been running http://www.weneedthenbn.com/ since Saturday night, and it's been getting a bit of traction, too. My phone call to my local MP wasn't exactly promising - while I couldn't talk directly to the MP (although I didn't expect to), the person who answered seemed generally uninterested in anything that I had to say, and was unaware of the technical differences (other than "the…
If you want you could add a link to your site and send me a pull: https://github.com/KoryNunn/iwantthenbn
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 25 mbps is fast enough Of course it's fast enough! You can fill your entire 640 kB of RAM (who needs that much anyway?) in 200ms with that raw speed.
What's a kB? :p
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I know. I even signed it. They won't ever do it. That would involve logic and a basic grasp of technology.
Given they mostly have business / law / academic backgrounds, I am not sure that anybody has ever put the case for fibre speeds to the Libs in terms other than 'this is what people want, and it is good.' The use cases used in Labor promotions were patronising to the extreme. Don't be surprised that they've concluded it is simply a 'nice thing' that people want but will loathe paying for. To be honest with you, the th…
Turnbull is well aware that fibre is the right way to go. They were trying to wedge Labor by not allowing them to get credit for anything.
Labor was not able to communicate its vision or its successes. Rudd was brought I. Far too late to undo the damage. They are now in the wilderness for some time. Yet again.
Re: I want the NBN
#39Good to see this one up on HN. I've been running http://www.weneedthenbn.com/ since Saturday night, and it's been getting a bit of traction, too. My phone call to my local MP wasn't exactly promising - while I couldn't talk directly to the MP (although I didn't expect to), the person who answered seemed generally uninterested in anything that I had to say, and was unaware of the technical differences (other than "the…
> the LNP plan is cheaper
I've heard that it's cheaper to build, but significantly more complicated and expensive to run because of the maintenance of the copper network and the fact that the nodes require power under the LNP NBN, but not the ALP NBN.
(I'd like confirmation/anti-confirmation of this if anyone happens to know more.)
Re: I want the NBN
#40Good to see this one up on HN. I've been running http://www.weneedthenbn.com/ since Saturday night, and it's been getting a bit of traction, too. My phone call to my local MP wasn't exactly promising - while I couldn't talk directly to the MP (although I didn't expect to), the person who answered seemed generally uninterested in anything that I had to say, and was unaware of the technical differences (other than "the…
Make a time to see your MP. Talking to a staffer on the phone is hit-and-miss.