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I tried finding more about the Twitter scraper, but didn't find anything. Could you provide a link? I think I'd get a good chuckle from it.
https://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9232476/Who_is_tweet...
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A few years ago at Defcon someone rigged up a Twitter scraper, and found all the tweets that geolocated to the massive NSA headquarters parking lot. That said, it's not clear to me that it's legal to actively attempt to "out" NSA employees.
Regardless of its legality, I'm sure the spooks would find an excuse to come shake you down.
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A few years ago at Defcon someone rigged up a Twitter scraper, and found all the tweets that geolocated to the massive NSA headquarters parking lot. That said, it's not clear to me that it's legal to actively attempt to "out" NSA employees.
Regardless of its legality, I'm sure the spooks would find an excuse to come shake you down.
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Also keep in mind these bases pump a TON of money back into the local economy: http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/06/30/12482964-bye-b... "City officials in Heidelberg expect annual financial losses of up to $25 million, as a result of the closures of U.S. bases in the region." "We estimate that a total of about 1,000 civilian jobs will be lost, when the nearly 8,000 service members pull out," said Diana Scharl,…
There's at least one person like you in every one of these threads, propagating the idea that money or economics makes injustice okay.
“After World War II no-one in Heidelberg knew the way into the future. The US Army worked to educate the young generation about how democracy works. It gave Heidelberg a perspective and helped the city get back on its feet and on its way to democracy,” he said.
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Germany doesn't "allow" US bases. They were forced to have them after World War II: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_in_Germ... [update: removed speculation about german taxpayer covering the bill]
Also keep in mind these bases pump a TON of money back into the local economy: http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/06/30/12482964-bye-b... "City officials in Heidelberg expect annual financial losses of up to $25 million, as a result of the closures of U.S. bases in the region." "We estimate that a total of about 1,000 civilian jobs will be lost, when the nearly 8,000 service members pull out," said Diana Scharl,…
On the other hand, something very positive is that the 2.500 abandoned apartments will make some space in the horrendous housing shortage in Heidelberg. The regional authorities said it's short of 8000+ apartments to fulfill the needs of thousands of commuters and students. So this is seen as a relieve.
The 213 hectars open area can also be used for sport facilities, agricultural utilization, public green space or rooms for the "creative economy" as germans say.
Heidelberg is very stable economically speaking and will not struggle from the troops leaving in 2014. Excluding any friendships and romantic liaisons that might end, this is generally seen as positive by germans. My guess would be that the service members are also glad to be returning home.
For reference, a picture of the currently occupied space by the US in Heidelberg : http://i.imgur.com/TsZuTC8.jpg
Re: FB event to walk to NSA's Dagger Complex results in a visit by the German police
#36Not that this justifies what happened at all, but: "Bangert, a veteran of the Blockupy protests in Frankfurt, had set up a group calling itself "NSA spy protection league" (NSA Spion Schutzbund), as if the US spies were an endangered species of birds" Would it be more reasonable to think that this individual was probably already being monitored as part of his Blockupy, and perhaps the German government was the one wa…
They were not allowed to enter the premises, but by coincidence wink wink someone pulled the fire alarm in a then-vacant building 15 minutes later, which opened the gates and barriers for the cop cruisers waiting just around the corner. By coincidence of course.
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#37Well...at least the German authorities were civilized about it. Not so sure our authorities (in the US) would have the same reaction.
Is that really the point it's gotten to? "At least they didn't kill me for trying to protect my rights".
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#38What I don't understand is why the Germans allow the US to setup a base that spies on them. According to the Spiegel the base was setup without local approval. Also also locals have been concerned for a long time because of possible radiation from the large antennas but for what ever reason the local government cant even inquire about it. Imagine a German military base in the middle of the US that has who knows what…
There's a similar base in the UK at Menwith Hill. They don't welcome visitors as such, but activist/comedian Mark Thomas discovered that due to a quirk in a law, it was legal to fly a hot air balloon over it. So that's what he did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBksQsAZ2hQ (short version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epWTJUajIdI (full episode)
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There's at least one person like you in every one of these threads, propagating the idea that money or economics makes injustice okay.
What injustice? The Germans approve the bases. The US finds them useful. It's a mutually beneficial situation that both sides want to continue.
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There's at least one person like you in every one of these threads, propagating the idea that money or economics makes injustice okay.
The Heidelberger mayor Eckart Würzner said he felt very sad about the departure of the US Army: “After World War II no-one in Heidelberg knew the way into the future. The US Army worked to educate the young generation about how democracy works. It gave Heidelberg a perspective and helped the city get back on its feet and on its way to democracy,” he said.
However, this isn't the Army we're talking about (obviously, they're leaving), but the NSA, whose mission is to gather intelligence to protect the US, so it's kinda funny that it uses bases smack in the middle of foreign countries...