If the mail client is good, then having it stand-alone is a great idea - with Thunderbird no longer updated I could do with an alternative on Windows (something that uses less RAM than keeping GMail open in a Chrome tab...)
> with Thunderbird no longer updated What are you talking about?
Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released
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Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released
#32I don't get it. Maybe i misremember but I thought Opera was a feature rich browser with an email client, widgets and a bunch of other stuff. Now mail has been shunted into its own product. I don't see widgets. It really looks and feels like a skin for Chrome and nothing more which makes me wonder what the point is. If I want Chrome I will use Chrome. OK, this is a preview but the news doesn't suggest any of these old…
Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released
#33It's like I'm really using Chrome! Although probably everyone saw this coming - it's just a skin of Chromium. They just took a few months to make a new mail client and put Opera icons everywhere.
It's not just a skin. It's a new interface remade from scratch. And unlike Chrome it's actually native. Must have been a massive undertaking. The new email client seems to be the old Opera only with browsing features removed. Must have been a quick job. So on both of these it's the opposite of what you are claiming...
Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released
#34I don't get it. Maybe i misremember but I thought Opera was a feature rich browser with an email client, widgets and a bunch of other stuff. Now mail has been shunted into its own product. I don't see widgets. It really looks and feels like a skin for Chrome and nothing more which makes me wonder what the point is. If I want Chrome I will use Chrome. OK, this is a preview but the news doesn't suggest any of these old…
I'm biased since I've worked on it, but I personally find the native UI a pretty major thing.
But still I have a hard time thinking that removing many features, not improving features that have been broken for years while almost doubling the size of the download is any kind of improvement.
I wish opera would release their engine as opensource so people can take it up from there. I don't want no google/apple browser or webkit only web experience.
Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released
#35How do I switch tabs using my keyboard? Cmd- doesn't work, so does not Cmd-Alt-Left|Right.
Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released
#36Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released
#37If the mail client is good, then having it stand-alone is a great idea - with Thunderbird no longer updated I could do with an alternative on Windows (something that uses less RAM than keeping GMail open in a Chrome tab...)
> with Thunderbird no longer updated What are you talking about?
It doesn't mean they won't accept features, they've just stated that they're not going to be focusing any of their development wherewithal on these.
Personally I think it's a good move as TB has plenty of features for a mail client but could really do with some optimization to speed and memory usage.
Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released
#38Simple mouse gestures work, but without visual guide, configuration and without right click + scroll.
Most horrible thing: MDI don't work. Popups opens in new window, like other browsers, instead of new tabs, like old Opera! Alerts currently don't have any chrome, so may be they would develop this later.
Opera Link don't work.
Text selection in links via mouse don't work.
No sidebar.
Verdict: in current state unusable for old Opera users.
Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released
#39Here's a list of features supported by the latest Chrome and latest Opera http://caniuse.com/#compare=chrome+28,opera+12.1 There's a couple of things that Opera might be loosing in this update, with the switch to Blink. Hopefully anything the do loose they'll be able to port over soon.
The most annoying feature in Chrome to me is its inability to select text. Yes, you read that right, it is impossible to select text in Chrome. Instead, what you get is selected elements – divs, headlines and the like, which causes horrible breakage if you just want to select (and then copy) simple letters.
Windows 7 - Version 27.0.1453.94 m (which BTWI copied and pasted from Chromes about page)
Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released
#40It's like I'm really using Chrome! Although probably everyone saw this coming - it's just a skin of Chromium. They just took a few months to make a new mail client and put Opera icons everywhere.
It's not just a skin. It's a new interface remade from scratch. And unlike Chrome it's actually native. Must have been a massive undertaking. The new email client seems to be the old Opera only with browsing features removed. Must have been a quick job. So on both of these it's the opposite of what you are claiming...