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Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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If the mail client is good, then having it stand-alone is a great idea - with Thunderbird no longer updated I could do with an alternative on Windows (something that uses less RAM than keeping GMail open in a Chrome tab...)

> with Thunderbird no longer updated What are you talking about?

What he meant is Thunderbird doesn't get new features. Bug fixes doesn't count.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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I don't get it. Maybe i misremember but I thought Opera was a feature rich browser with an email client, widgets and a bunch of other stuff. Now mail has been shunted into its own product. I don't see widgets. It really looks and feels like a skin for Chrome and nothing more which makes me wonder what the point is. If I want Chrome I will use Chrome. OK, this is a preview but the news doesn't suggest any of these old…

Widgets? They have been replaced by Extensions.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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It's like I'm really using Chrome! Although probably everyone saw this coming - it's just a skin of Chromium. They just took a few months to make a new mail client and put Opera icons everywhere.

It's not just a skin. It's a new interface remade from scratch. And unlike Chrome it's actually native. Must have been a massive undertaking. The new email client seems to be the old Opera only with browsing features removed. Must have been a quick job. So on both of these it's the opposite of what you are claiming...

What do you mean native? How is this more native than Chrome?

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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I don't get it. Maybe i misremember but I thought Opera was a feature rich browser with an email client, widgets and a bunch of other stuff. Now mail has been shunted into its own product. I don't see widgets. It really looks and feels like a skin for Chrome and nothing more which makes me wonder what the point is. If I want Chrome I will use Chrome. OK, this is a preview but the news doesn't suggest any of these old…

I'm biased since I've worked on it, but I personally find the native UI a pretty major thing.

I wish I could have tried it but as usual no love for linux users from opera, or much delayed love.

But still I have a hard time thinking that removing many features, not improving features that have been broken for years while almost doubling the size of the download is any kind of improvement.

I wish opera would release their engine as opensource so people can take it up from there. I don't want no google/apple browser or webkit only web experience.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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If the mail client is good, then having it stand-alone is a great idea - with Thunderbird no longer updated I could do with an alternative on Windows (something that uses less RAM than keeping GMail open in a Chrome tab...)

> with Thunderbird no longer updated What are you talking about?

Mozilla recently placed Thunderbird in a maintenance-only state, where active feature development has ceased but stability, security, and speed improvements will continue to be merged. This is why Thunderbird is on v17 instead of Firefox's v21 after graduating versions in lockstep with Fx for a while.

It doesn't mean they won't accept features, they've just stated that they're not going to be focusing any of their development wherewithal on these.

Personally I think it's a good move as TB has plenty of features for a mail client but could really do with some optimization to speed and memory usage.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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No middle click on tab bar to create new tab.

Simple mouse gestures work, but without visual guide, configuration and without right click + scroll.

Most horrible thing: MDI don't work. Popups opens in new window, like other browsers, instead of new tabs, like old Opera! Alerts currently don't have any chrome, so may be they would develop this later.

Opera Link don't work.

Text selection in links via mouse don't work.

No sidebar.

Verdict: in current state unusable for old Opera users.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Here's a list of features supported by the latest Chrome and latest Opera http://caniuse.com/#compare=chrome+28,opera+12.1 There's a couple of things that Opera might be loosing in this update, with the switch to Blink. Hopefully anything the do loose they'll be able to port over soon.

The most annoying feature in Chrome to me is its inability to select text. Yes, you read that right, it is impossible to select text in Chrome. Instead, what you get is selected elements – divs, headlines and the like, which causes horrible breakage if you just want to select (and then copy) simple letters.

Huh? I'm using chrome now and can easily select single letters, words or your whole comment. Care to elaborate?

Windows 7 - Version 27.0.1453.94 m (which BTWI copied and pasted from Chromes about page)

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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It's like I'm really using Chrome! Although probably everyone saw this coming - it's just a skin of Chromium. They just took a few months to make a new mail client and put Opera icons everywhere.

It's not just a skin. It's a new interface remade from scratch. And unlike Chrome it's actually native. Must have been a massive undertaking. The new email client seems to be the old Opera only with browsing features removed. Must have been a quick job. So on both of these it's the opposite of what you are claiming...

It doesn;t allow Tab Overflow or any other UI features suggest to me this is nothing more or a Rework of Skin instead of a whole new UI rewritten from scratch.
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