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Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Disclosure: I work at Microsoft. But I also am the volunteer IT guy at a nonprofit, and am speaking entirely in that context. I was quite unhappy to get a mail back in (checks archives) January that our grant would be discontinued and we’d either have to make do with the web versions of things, migrate someplace, or start paying. They also reminded us several more times before the drop date. I don’t really under…

If 150,000+ organisations were caught by surprise, I would say it’s clear whatever communication they had was not adequate. Organisations that didn’t have an off-boarding option (do nothing, pay the minimum, I’ll deal with it) selected should receive monthly reminders, then every 2 weeks (to multiple people), and one per week until a VERY alarming one the week before. And, of course, have all systems shut down and th…

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Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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Yep, this is the sort of thing happens when you've deeply internalized that trustworthiness and continuity is not important. Microsoft today is not a serious company, it is not run by serious people, and it is at the forefront of a deeply unserious industry.

What does "serious" mean in this context?

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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post #33

Yep, this is the sort of thing happens when you've deeply internalized that trustworthiness and continuity is not important. Microsoft today is not a serious company, it is not run by serious people, and it is at the forefront of a deeply unserious industry.

What does "serious" mean in this context?

It's just an internet meme phrase. "X is not a serious Y" just means that X is a joke.

It's a dumb phrase and overused in contexts like this.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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post #10

People are better off using LibreOffice on a Linux desktop

As a daily Linux user and enthusiast, I detest statements like this. You did not read the article not the problem that those companies have and your only solution is "Use LibreOffice" without any actual interest in what their problem is or what an actual solution to their problems is. People like you push newbies away from Linux. Using LibreOffice does not give you web sharing, nor permission systems, nor automation…

Also, libreoffice is just unequivocally worse than MS Office - it is actively painful to use their spreadsheet, for example.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does "serious" mean in this context?

It's just an internet meme phrase. "X is not a serious Y" just means that X is a joke. It's a dumb phrase and overused in contexts like this.

"Is not serious" is not serious?

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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No Microsoft is not to blame. Whoever sells themselves into an all encompassing ecosystem with no exit plan or backup is to blame. It’s absolutely stupid thinking even if it’s the norm these days.

The cloud is a convenience at most and an expensive one. You do everything you need to do somewhere else and pray that no one else gets in or you get shot.

This is a warning to everyone else. Heed it.

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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post #3

Cloud is nice if it works. Web hosting is nice if you pay for it. In history timeline, future archaeologists will probably see almost nothing, some books… as we are used to past centuries. But clouds, servers… gone. BTW don’t use SSD for archiving.

As a society we actually generate a lots of books. Future generations wouldn’t be missing too much without the internet I think. Also, not everything is worth preserving. Easily 90% of Reddit is complete garbage

Re: Over 170k Nonprofits Lost All Their Data. Is Microsoft to Blame?

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post #33

Yep, this is the sort of thing happens when you've deeply internalized that trustworthiness and continuity is not important. Microsoft today is not a serious company, it is not run by serious people, and it is at the forefront of a deeply unserious industry.

What does "serious" mean in this context?

In this context it would presumably mean not casually deleting your customers' data.

When people say a company is unserious they almost always mean that they're not thinking about, and taking seriously, the work that their customers do. This seems like a classic example of that.

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