SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers

Post by gentooflux » Fri, Jul 10, 2026, 9:27 AM UTC

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Exactly right, and same for society in general. There’s a degree to which humans work okay in their primitive state (hunter-gatherers, small homogenous communities), but once scaling and technology enters the picture we’re 100% toast without a fundamental recalibration towards genuinely caring for one another.

Not at all, people incapable of caring for others can also contribute wonderfully but they operate entirely different. It is arguably mean to expect our behavior from people who feel nothing for other people and your generosity is weakness to be exploited. They do however have great respect for that what scares them shitless which can be upgraded to unmatched respect if the scary thing helps them when they most need…

Post by gigatree » Fri, Jul 10, 2026, 12:20 PM UTC

reactordev wrote: post #16

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The Supreme Intelligence has entered the chat... My brain has been stuck on that same thought for decades - wouldn't it be great to have a wholly objective, impartial, and independent governing mechanism to limit the influence of power hungry monkeys and their lackeys. A fantastic low to the ground example of the fundamental problems with human politics is seen in American HOA structures and proliferation. It's utter…

Make no mistake, America was founded on greed. Our cries for Democracy and Liberty were only so we wouldn't have to pay the King's taxes. We wanted the western native lands that the British promised to protect with hired native americans. The notion that "All men are created equal" only applied to virtuous white men . Also, France was eager to give hell to the British and the Colonies were a mere spat in the global t…

Post by ecshafer » Fri, Jul 10, 2026, 2:13 PM UTC

gigatree wrote: post #34

reactordev wrote: post #16

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Make no mistake, America was founded on greed. Our cries for Democracy and Liberty were only so we wouldn't have to pay the King's taxes. We wanted the western native lands that the British promised to protect with hired native americans. The notion that "All men are created equal" only applied to virtuous white men . Also, France was eager to give hell to the British and the Colonies were a mere spat in the global t…

Wow I’ve never seen someone else in the wild talk about this, it’s like a collective psychosis. Every time I hear “the founding fathers would be turning in their grave if they saw this corruption” I roll my eyes. The MO since the beginning has been propaganda and war. You must not be American?

Post by mckelveyf » Fri, Jul 10, 2026, 3:53 PM UTC

NotGMan wrote: post #29

I didn't read the book but the problem in politics is always the silent majority. On the internet, the 5% of haters and the 5% of the biggest fans mostly comment. 90% of the people don't, the silent majority. How are you gonna model what those who don't give an opinion say? Polls? Remember the USA 2016 election where Trump won?

Post by gowld » Fri, Jul 10, 2026, 6:26 PM UTC

left-struck wrote: post #19

boznz wrote: post #12

Thank you for this, I'm going to give it a read. I am unfortunately very bearish on politics in general. All politicians think short term, look after themselves, their families, their friends, and their interests first; Facts, and working simulations just get in the way. (I am still looking for a politician that is an exception to this rule) Human nature is unfortunately real, and the only way I can see to "solve pol…

I think a better way to run a democracy might be to have our leaders chosen at random. Sounds like a joke, but I’m serious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition