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SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers

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Re: SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers

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Title is: SimPolitics - America’s Quest to Solve Politics with Computers

Wouldnt this be a show hn?

Not really. ShowHN’s are for interactive things and are supposed to be free and generally shouldn’t require account creation.

“Reading material” is specifically called out as being off topic!

https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

Re: SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers

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Thank you for this, I'm going to give it a read.

I am unfortunately very bearish on politics in general. All politicians think short term, look after themselves, their families, their friends, and their interests first; Facts, and working simulations just get in the way. (I am still looking for a politician that is an exception to this rule) Human nature is unfortunately real, and the only way I can see to "solve politics" is to remove human's entirely, but that comes with a whole new set of issues and is another book I guess.

Re: SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers

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post #12

Thank you for this, I'm going to give it a read. I am unfortunately very bearish on politics in general. All politicians think short term, look after themselves, their families, their friends, and their interests first; Facts, and working simulations just get in the way. (I am still looking for a politician that is an exception to this rule) Human nature is unfortunately real, and the only way I can see to "solve pol…

The Supreme Intelligence has entered the chat... My brain has been stuck on that same thought for decades - wouldn't it be great to have a wholly objective, impartial, and independent governing mechanism to limit the influence of power hungry monkeys and their lackeys.

A fantastic low to the ground example of the fundamental problems with human politics is seen in American HOA structures and proliferation. It's utterly amazing to me how insanely corrupt a bog standard HOA can get months into it's inception simply do to base human behavior.

I'll remain bearish on this as well. "Democracy" and collective government has been our species best attempt at this and well...

Re: SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers

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post #12

Thank you for this, I'm going to give it a read. I am unfortunately very bearish on politics in general. All politicians think short term, look after themselves, their families, their friends, and their interests first; Facts, and working simulations just get in the way. (I am still looking for a politician that is an exception to this rule) Human nature is unfortunately real, and the only way I can see to "solve pol…

Exactly right, and same for society in general. There’s a degree to which humans work okay in their primitive state (hunter-gatherers, small homogenous communities), but once scaling and technology enters the picture we’re 100% toast without a fundamental recalibration towards genuinely caring for one another.

Re: SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers

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post #12

Thank you for this, I'm going to give it a read. I am unfortunately very bearish on politics in general. All politicians think short term, look after themselves, their families, their friends, and their interests first; Facts, and working simulations just get in the way. (I am still looking for a politician that is an exception to this rule) Human nature is unfortunately real, and the only way I can see to "solve pol…

The Supreme Intelligence has entered the chat... My brain has been stuck on that same thought for decades - wouldn't it be great to have a wholly objective, impartial, and independent governing mechanism to limit the influence of power hungry monkeys and their lackeys. A fantastic low to the ground example of the fundamental problems with human politics is seen in American HOA structures and proliferation. It's utter…

Bet we’re less than 5 years from that tbh

Re: SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers

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post #12

Thank you for this, I'm going to give it a read. I am unfortunately very bearish on politics in general. All politicians think short term, look after themselves, their families, their friends, and their interests first; Facts, and working simulations just get in the way. (I am still looking for a politician that is an exception to this rule) Human nature is unfortunately real, and the only way I can see to "solve pol…

The Supreme Intelligence has entered the chat... My brain has been stuck on that same thought for decades - wouldn't it be great to have a wholly objective, impartial, and independent governing mechanism to limit the influence of power hungry monkeys and their lackeys. A fantastic low to the ground example of the fundamental problems with human politics is seen in American HOA structures and proliferation. It's utter…

Make no mistake, America was founded on greed. Our cries for Democracy and Liberty were only so we wouldn't have to pay the King's taxes. We wanted the western native lands that the British promised to protect with hired native americans. The notion that "All men are created equal" only applied to virtuous white men.

Also, France was eager to give hell to the British and the Colonies were a mere spat in the global theater once France entered chat.

Re: SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers

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Thank you for this, I'm going to give it a read. I am unfortunately very bearish on politics in general. All politicians think short term, look after themselves, their families, their friends, and their interests first; Facts, and working simulations just get in the way. (I am still looking for a politician that is an exception to this rule) Human nature is unfortunately real, and the only way I can see to "solve pol…

I get the bearish case but it is easy to forget how much difference good vs bad politics can have and that politics isn't primarily a game of facts. It is an optimization problem under many unknowns and its history is littered with academic theories debunked and hard won compromises.

Re: SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers

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post #12

Thank you for this, I'm going to give it a read. I am unfortunately very bearish on politics in general. All politicians think short term, look after themselves, their families, their friends, and their interests first; Facts, and working simulations just get in the way. (I am still looking for a politician that is an exception to this rule) Human nature is unfortunately real, and the only way I can see to "solve pol…

I think a better way to run a democracy might be to have our leaders chosen at random. Sounds like a joke, but I’m serious:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition

Re: SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldnt this be a show hn?

Not really. ShowHN’s are for interactive things and are supposed to be free and generally shouldn’t require account creation. “Reading material” is specifically called out as being off topic! https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

I was tempted with Show HN, but it also seems more like demos, and this is more a link to an open access book so I thought it was more reading material.
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