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Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

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Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#31

I don't like WYSIWYG on the web. You do a long and tedious formatting of a forum post, then close the tab and it's all gone. I prefer to use a local text editor then Ctrl+V into web form. Which I can with markdown

It depends for me. For my blog I have a web based editor, but one, that is just plain markdown with a preview. Similar to your described workflow. For a note taking app I decided to use WYSIWYG because I don't have the space for a split view and didn't want to just look at the markdown as is.

My main gripe with WYSIWYG is that they can get in your way. When I create a verbatim block and can't leave that block anymore (looking at you Teams). I guess thats also why I enjoyed LaTeX as much as I did.

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#32

I don't like WYSIWYG on the web. You do a long and tedious formatting of a forum post, then close the tab and it's all gone. I prefer to use a local text editor then Ctrl+V into web form. Which I can with markdown

Any sites that have forms or editors that don't save your progress with localstorage need to leave the web and not come back.

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#35

This is amusing as well as slightly scary. Prosemirror over the years has become the backbone of editors on the web. ChatGPT uses it. Gemini uses it. Linked chat and feed composers are Prosemirror powered. Literally every serious product uses Prosemirror for composing text on the web. There is an entire YC company built on top of Prosemirror (Tiptap). The thought that Prosemirror is no more in active development is s…

Obligatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/2347/

but as @john_strinlai as I have said it doesn't seem like Prosemirror is going unmaintained. It will continue to be maintained

but I think its worth thinking about the structure of the whole thing being so similar to the xkcd which is what might be the scary part of it.

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#36
post #17

I would be curios that what are the cons/pros for selecting this over Facebook's Lexical ( https://github.com/facebook/lexical )

My exact comment, Lexical is very powerful and needs little dependencies.

I believe Wardgard has zero external dependencies. The three packages it depends on are all utils written by the author himself.

https://code.haverbeke.berlin/wordgard/wordgard/src/branch/m...

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#39

I think most people would love to the know the 'why'. This page discusses differences with prosemirror and is the closest I got to that question: ( https://wordgard.net/docs/prosemirror/ ). One thing to note is that there is not an upgrade path. Many concepts are shared with prosemirror, but it seems that switching means doing quite some work (correct me if I am wrong). Obsidian is based on Code Mirror so I guess the…

> why wordgard is worth the switching cost?

It may not be. If you're happy with ProseMirror, continue to use ProseMirror. I have your back.

But as the blog posts describes, I had a whole pile of new design insights that avoid some of the issues I've ran into with ProseMirror, so I had the itch to build a new iteration.

I'll add a link to the blog post to the docs section of the website.

(It's marijn, not merijn.)

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#40

This is amusing as well as slightly scary. Prosemirror over the years has become the backbone of editors on the web. ChatGPT uses it. Gemini uses it. Linked chat and feed composers are Prosemirror powered. Literally every serious product uses Prosemirror for composing text on the web. There is an entire YC company built on top of Prosemirror (Tiptap). The thought that Prosemirror is no more in active development is s…

The only scary thought is that all these important operations don't have a plan B if prosemirror, a software they don't write, don't own and presumably don't pay, goes away.

Many of them do pay.

Also MIT-licensed software doesn't 'go away' all that easily. If a piano fell on my head tomorrow, interested parties would probably manage to continue development in a fork.

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