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Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

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Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#11
~6 years ago had a very hard time researching and implementing an @-style remote resource completion (other users and documents to reference) and the style of extensions in this editor seem very much like an evolution of prosemirror.

I'd really appreciate it this was something built in, not something I have to build based on the dinosaurs example. Every time I need to reach for one of these text editor libraries that is my no. 1 usecase, followed by WYSIWYG.

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#12
post #10

Getting that WYSIWYG editor up and running was a major stumbling block that I overcame to get my school newspaper a PHP-Nuke site ~25 years ago. It is insane that there isn't a web standard implementation for this passed 15 years ago.

There is contenteditable, which is what all these (Wordgard, ProseMirror) are fundamentally built on. The rest is just the UI, and interop with systems that don't desire arbitrary HTML as input.

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#13

I can’t believe that we are still trying to solve this. One would think that after so many years (I’ve started doing web almost 20 years ago) we would end up with some solutions baked in browsers

Something like showcontrols for contenteditable with flags for features

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#14
post #7

The code appears to be unavailable. This includes not just wordgard but all the ProseMirror code as well. If the motivation for moving off GitHub was "GH is down too much", it might be worth tracking how many 9's of uptime is lost in the self-hosted case.

Were you meaning it was unavailable temporarily?

Maybe something changed in the meantime, but I'm seeing what appears to be the code for it here: https://code.haverbeke.berlin/wordgard/wordgard/src/branch/m...

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#15

ProseMirror is an excellent project, but it’s always been a bit awkward using it directly in React. I remember that NYT had to rewrite the renderer to make it work for their use-case. I wonder how Wordgard compares in this aspect!

The people developing that left NYT and spun it out into a separate (really great!) project https://github.com/handlewithcarecollective/react-prosemirro...

They are also working on a collaborative editing suite for ProseMirror as an alternative to TipTap https://pitter-patter.dev/

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#16

I think most people would love to the know the 'why'. This page discusses differences with prosemirror and is the closest I got to that question: ( https://wordgard.net/docs/prosemirror/ ). One thing to note is that there is not an upgrade path. Many concepts are shared with prosemirror, but it seems that switching means doing quite some work (correct me if I am wrong). Obsidian is based on Code Mirror so I guess the…

"Why is it worth the switching cost?" is the genuine question I have too. Or more importantly, why not just make it ProseMirror v2? The landing page needs more information about the "why" rather than the "what".

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#18

I can’t believe that we are still trying to solve this. One would think that after so many years (I’ve started doing web almost 20 years ago) we would end up with some solutions baked in browsers

I think the issue is not the "solving", rather that people have different opinions and they want different things, and there isn't common agreement what is needed or how. Most editors work just fine for the basic needs. But well, that is my opinion.

Re: Wordgard: In-browser rich-text editor from the creator of ProseMirror

#20
This is amusing as well as slightly scary. Prosemirror over the years has become the backbone of editors on the web. ChatGPT uses it. Gemini uses it. Linked chat and feed composers are Prosemirror powered. Literally every serious product uses Prosemirror for composing text on the web.

There is an entire YC company built on top of Prosemirror (Tiptap).

The thought that Prosemirror is no more in active development is scary.

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