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Dallas Fed: 30% of housing cost increase driven by unauthorized immigration [pdf]

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#31

unauthorized? Are they trying to find a middle ground word between "illegal" and "undocumented"?

>> "Unauthorized Immigration. As noted earlier, we use unauthorized immigrants to refer to individuals who enter the U.S. without formal admission under immigration law. A large share of these individuals are encountered by federal authorities at ports of entry, along the border, or in the interior and are subsequently issued an NTA in immigration court, allowing them to seek asylum or otherwise challenge removal. [...]"

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Re: Dallas Fed: 30% of housing cost increase driven by unauthorized immigration [pdf]

#32
I'm not sure why the editorializing in the title but here's the actual abstract:

> From early 2021 to early 2024, the U.S. experienced an unprecedented boom in unauthorized immigration, followed by a rapid slowdown beginning in mid-2024. We provide the first systematic empirical assessment of the labor- and housing-market effects of this episode. Using newly available administrative microdata on individual immigrants, we construct measures of net unauthorized immigration at the national and local levels and exploit plausibly exogenous variation across local markets. We find that unauthorized immigrant worker flows (UIWF) increased local employment approximately one-for-one, without significant declines in local wages. These inflows also raised local house prices and rents without expanding housing supply, consistent with a housing demand shock in the face of short-run inelastic supply. Lastly, we find that UIWF reduced labor income per capita, consistent with downward wage composition of the local workforce, and strongly reduced government transfers. These findings should help inform policy debates surrounding how unauthorized immigrant labor supply impacts local labor and housing markets as well as public finances.

Basically what the paper says is at a city-by-city level unauthorized immigrants increase housing prices in to a similar degree to authorized immigrants (about 1% pop increase -> 2% housing price increase), are roughly 100% employed (increase local employment 1:1), and use government services at a lower rate than the base population (about 1% pop increase -> overall 5% decrease in spending). Then a lot of discussion about methodology and related work. I'm a little skeptical of some of the assumptions, they (and apparently the citations) don't appear to account for the fact that in all cases people are more likely to move to places with jobs (economic activity driving labor demand), housing supply is generally pretty inelastic on the scale of a couple years, and so even if nobody moved to the city it's possible wages (and housing prices) would go up anyway.

Re: Dallas Fed: 30% of housing cost increase driven by unauthorized immigration [pdf]

#33
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada housing costs are coming down since temporary immigration has been strongly curtailed. Immigration cannot outpace housing supply without impacting housing costs for everyone. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/12/canada-migrati... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46304685 (citations)

I've said this a million times, there is no free lunch with using immigration to paper over population decline. One of the main problems has to do with housing. A baby will require their own separate housing in ~20 years. An immigrant needs it _today_. It's irrefutable that bringing in 100K immigrants, illegal or otherwise, in a year will strain the housing market more than 100K babies. We used to have a sustainable…

Indeed, the rate of new housing construction in the US declined substantially after the 2008 GFC and never recovered. We are now experiencing the result of that. You can’t print housing stock. Immigration quota should be a function of housing costs and availability, otherwise you’re bidding up the cost of housing for everyone for gains for some.

Subsidize the housing if you must to ensure you have affordable housing for peak population before decline kicks in, as it will everywhere.

Re: Dallas Fed: 30% of housing cost increase driven by unauthorized immigration [pdf]

#34
post #28

Legal immigration also raise housing costs. And if we complain, we are labeled as racist.

Legal immigrants pay the same taxes you do. The real problem is NIMBY.

Government exists to serve the people not the other way around.

Re: Dallas Fed: 30% of housing cost increase driven by unauthorized immigration [pdf]

#35
Cool, lets go after the businesses that hired them because they're the ones who can provide the equivelent remuneration and profitted off that.

Cause you know, that's typically how things work when you're actually concerned about economic impacts and arn't just a rcist dog whistling dog & pony circus show looking to deflect from the other bad to disasterous economic decisions.

Think about it: if this is true, American citizens have been harmed by Businesses that illegally hired workers and cause $X amount of damage. Instead of going after $X + damages of $Y, we've commited to spend $Z amount to go after those workers, even when all evidence points to the illegal hiring both brings in a profit and displaces american workers.

It's such a pointless series of racist shrugs and waste of tax payer funds. Instead of going after the profits of businesses, we go into debt trying to attack workers.

Re: Dallas Fed: 30% of housing cost increase driven by unauthorized immigration [pdf]

#36
If ya build more housing, the value of existing homes might go down. Unfortunately, nobody wants to see their home decrease in value so they don’t want new construction. Or they want it “over there a ways” such that it’s not a negative. Commuting gets worse as there’s no satellite jobs or work from home.

And nobody it seems wants to see higher density housing unless there’s really no choice. So people end up in large housing which is mostly empty after the kid(s) leave. And their retirement depends on selling out for a profit.

Re: Dallas Fed: 30% of housing cost increase driven by unauthorized immigration [pdf]

#37

In a properly functioning market, new supply would be built when there is new demand. Perhaps they should try to figure out why that isn't happening.

I know it’s good for Blue Team redistricting, but I think we need to seriously reconsider the viability of moving every human on earth to 5 metro areas in the US.

People want to take care of their families, and they go where the jobs are. This has been happening for hundreds of years now, I don't know if it's possible to turn it around.

Re: Dallas Fed: 30% of housing cost increase driven by unauthorized immigration [pdf]

#38
post #30

The research is impressive in its granularity. However, they seem to simply assert causality. It would seem far more likely that people (illegal or not) move to areas experiencing economic booms that, among other things, is push up home prices.

This is a detailed study performed by experts. Do you believe they would overlook such obvious explanation? I'm sorry, but your argument sounds like the typical HN oversimplification that leads people to say they could build Dropbox in a weekend.

> This is a detailed study performed by experts. Do you believe they would overlook such obvious explanation?

Yes, they could have possibly overlooked things that appear to be obvious in retrospect. Happens all the time because it may or not have been the focus of the paper, or the time constraints may have not permitted this level of research. This is why we usually have multiple papers, each building on each other over time, on the same data sets/topics.

Re: Dallas Fed: 30% of housing cost increase driven by unauthorized immigration [pdf]

#39

In a properly functioning market, new supply would be built when there is new demand. Perhaps they should try to figure out why that isn't happening.

Housing suffers from being based on a naturally scarce resource land. Markets drive prices higher but new land cannot be created

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Re: Dallas Fed: 30% of housing cost increase driven by unauthorized immigration [pdf]

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post #30

The research is impressive in its granularity. However, they seem to simply assert causality. It would seem far more likely that people (illegal or not) move to areas experiencing economic booms that, among other things, is push up home prices.

This is a detailed study performed by experts. Do you believe they would overlook such obvious explanation? I'm sorry, but your argument sounds like the typical HN oversimplification that leads people to say they could build Dropbox in a weekend.

Said experts do not seem to have included this core analysis in the report.

Since housing starts are more likely in areas seeing rapid housing price appreciation, and construction employs many illegal workers, you could make just as strong of a case that increased housing costs drive unauthorized migration rather than the other way around.

That's why it's so hard, and so important, to disentangle correlation and causation.

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