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Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by chapel »

andy_xor_andrew wrote: post #19

I've used Hermes Agent in a container, and it worked ok. Little rought around the edges, but that's to be expected. But what I didn't understand... what benefit does it actually bring? On a default loadout, even after disabling tons of skills in the setup wizard, there were lots of useless garbage skills enabled, over 10k of context used just to list them all. I vibe-coded my own harness that uses ACP so it supports…

I've done similar, even to the point of a discord gateway integration that is very similar to the one Hermes ships with.

I still use Hermes because it's not a problem I care about solving right now and am spending my time and tokens on more important problems. I don't plan to always use it, and if anything it gives me ideas for what the ideal shape of what I want would be.

Also to add, having a unified space to chat with an agent that has a local system it can work with is quite liberating because I use it to drive my agent orchestration system. So I'm no longer bound to my computer or any one providers harness and whatever mobile solution they provide if any. It's been quite freeing and I don't use Hermes that differently than I would chatgpt, except it know exactly how I like to do my work and that means I have to remind it less.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by alasano »

JaceComix wrote: post #28

When I dropped my Claude sub a few months ago I first went to try pi. At first I was a little overwhelmed by having to browse extensions to get the experience I want (coupled with finding new model providers to use). So I looked elsewhere and found Crush and Hermes. They're both very a e s t h e t i c, which I think can make using them fun, but ultimately if I had a nitpick, I would look back over at pi, and the gras…

I understand that hermes needs to do be able to do "everything" but I can't stand how much crap comes along with it.

It feels like when you do a fresh Windows install and you have to debloat it from all the spyware and candy crush type games.

Pi is the perfect clean slate, I absolutely love it.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by atemerev »

Multiplayer wrote: post #20

My simple take: Hermes is for the less technical and is more polished. OpenClaw is deeper with more capabilities. OpenClaw has come so far since its' original launch/craze. I recommend taking a second look if you haven't touched it in a while. If for no other reason than it's just a really fun playground with a LOT of areas to experiment in. Setup a myriad of agents with various models, skills, cron jobs, etc. The co…

I tried to make mine as human-like as possible, with self-reflection, episodic memory / hippocampus, emotional tagging etc. If you prefer talking to a person, not a tool, you can take a look at https://lethe.gg/ (open source, written in Rust, hosted version available).

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by kordlessagain »

throwa356262 wrote: post #16
qingcharles wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this weirdness: "Hermes Agent (and others) default Installs are silently routing web traffic to Parallel" https://www.reddit.com/r/hermesagent/comments/1u5ukz6/hermes...

Wow, the response from their team was really awful. Basically: it is a free service, free is good, why are you being difficult? People running Hermes on local models thought their data was theirs, but what if the model is not the only leakage vector??

I just asked Antigravity to clone the repo to look to see if it might have leaky code and it flat out refused three times in a row to even clone it. It would seem the snake is eating its own head.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by chapel »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #25
chapel wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you read it? Given it's all AI slop I wouldn't be surprised if not, but the claim is basically "I had this idea first, I think they stole it from me." Not that they stole code or even copy, just the idea from a completely open source project (at the time). Given how many people have posted and released similar systems over the time skills came out and even before, that's a huge claim with no substance to back it.

> Did you read it? Not particularly. But at least that source tries to explain what happened.

I agree on the point of linking it, which the HN thread linked before supposedly had a link to the blog post in question but it did not have any content. So thanks for sharing nonetheless.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by theshrike79 »

qingcharles wrote: post #8
cassianoleal wrote: post #5

It's probably good to at least be aware of the plagiarism debacle around Hermes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48187581

And this weirdness: "Hermes Agent (and others) default Installs are silently routing web traffic to Parallel" https://www.reddit.com/r/hermesagent/comments/1u5ukz6/hermes...

And already removed: https://github.com/NousResearch/hermes-agent/pull/46350

tl;dr for people who just read the inaccurate quote: It was the default search provider (for free), if you configured anything else, it was not used. They removed the default.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by theshrike79 »

kordlessagain wrote: post #26
echelon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. This is bad, if true. 2. In the future, there won't be copyright. Or open source. Or anything "owned". It can all just be copied trivially, and there's literally no stopping it. 3. I don't know how to feel about any of that. This is so new and complicated. The whole world is changing dramatically and being completely reshaped.

As Musk and Dorsey have said, IP law is highly incompatible with AI. Wasn't there some news a while ago that Anthropic and other frontier model companies used a bunch of pirated books to train their models? Are we not all benefiting from the fact that they also crawled a bunch of open code repos? If something is open source, it's pretty easy to tell if code is pulled directly from another repo and included in a proje…

> Wasn't there some news a while ago that Anthropic and other frontier model companies used a bunch of pirated books to train their models? Are we not all benefiting from the fact that they also crawled a bunch of open code repos?

It was Meta. With Zuck's explicit permission.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

cassianoleal wrote: post #13
segmondy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there is no debacle, ". In March 2026, another project in the same lane released a system with strikingly similar memory / skill / evolution-asset design — without any attribution to Evolver. " there is nothing new about memory (aka sessions saved), skills (aka prompt in a file), etc folks have been doing this for 2+ years.

I'm sorry but if this is not a debacle, then we're operating under very different premises: - teknium1 retitled the original issue to "." and edited the issue text to "." - Nous Research deleted comments from 4 users, including the issue submitter, and blocked all of them. - No formal response has been given by teknium or the Nous Research project. It appears they are trying their darndest to brush it under the rug.…

I have no idea what these three things mean without more context.
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