It's probably good to at least be aware of the plagiarism debacle around Hermes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48187581
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#12It's probably good to at least be aware of the plagiarism debacle around Hermes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48187581
2. In the future, there won't be copyright. Or open source. Or anything "owned". It can all just be copied trivially, and there's literally no stopping it.
3. I don't know how to feel about any of that. This is so new and complicated. The whole world is changing dramatically and being completely reshaped.
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#13It's probably good to at least be aware of the plagiarism debacle around Hermes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48187581
there is no debacle, ". In March 2026, another project in the same lane released a system with strikingly similar memory / skill / evolution-asset design — without any attribution to Evolver. " there is nothing new about memory (aka sessions saved), skills (aka prompt in a file), etc folks have been doing this for 2+ years.
- teknium1 retitled the original issue to "." and edited the issue text to "."
- Nous Research deleted comments from 4 users, including the issue submitter, and blocked all of them.
- No formal response has been given by teknium or the Nous Research project. It appears they are trying their darndest to brush it under the rug.
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#15It's probably good to at least be aware of the plagiarism debacle around Hermes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48187581
Linking to the claim [1] might be stronger. [1] https://evomap.ai/blog/hermes-agent-evolver-similarity-analy...
Not that they stole code or even copy, just the idea from a completely open source project (at the time).
Given how many people have posted and released similar systems over the time skills came out and even before, that's a huge claim with no substance to back it.
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#16It's probably good to at least be aware of the plagiarism debacle around Hermes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48187581
And this weirdness: "Hermes Agent (and others) default Installs are silently routing web traffic to Parallel" https://www.reddit.com/r/hermesagent/comments/1u5ukz6/hermes...
Basically: it is a free service, free is good, why are you being difficult?
People running Hermes on local models thought their data was theirs, but what if the model is not the only leakage vector??
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#17Is it bad that I want to try Hermes but look at the code and see setup.py and no project.toml and it gives me pause?
And a uv.lock is also there...
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#19But what I didn't understand... what benefit does it actually bring? On a default loadout, even after disabling tons of skills in the setup wizard, there were lots of useless garbage skills enabled, over 10k of context used just to list them all.
I vibe-coded my own harness that uses ACP so it supports any coding CLI that exposes ACP (copilot cli, opencode, basically every popular one with official or non-official wrappers). And I was able to achieve basically exactly what I wanted from any Claw-like agent, in like a few hours.
I know there's way, way more to these self-sufficient agents (compaction, memory system, etc) but in my mind, it feels like the closer you can be to a barebones "coding agent core" plus "gateways that point to it" the better.
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#20OpenClaw has come so far since its' original launch/craze. I recommend taking a second look if you haven't touched it in a while. If for no other reason than it's just a really fun playground with a LOT of areas to experiment in. Setup a myriad of agents with various models, skills, cron jobs, etc. The control surfaces have come a long way as well.
Hermes is good fun, running that as well but feels like they focused on polish vs features in order to capitalize on the primitive state that OpenClaw was in for its first months.
People that got attracted to the hype of openclaw but couldn't endure the fast pace of breaking changes while they figured out the problem space were well served by going to Hermes.