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'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

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Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

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Amazon’s attempts at AI tooling are just far too behind to be taken seriously. Kiro, Quick whatever, the Alexa updates. All just a hot mess. Amazon’s own employees appear to have abandoned Kiro en mass when allowed to just use Claude.

Amazon should just focus on being a utility compute provider. Anything they try to do on top of that is just consistently second rate.

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

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I've never worked in a big corporate environment, so I'm always surprised that these companies allow employees to mock their own products/managers/bosses.

(Not saying it shouldn't be allowed, just that it's surprising based on how controlling I'd expect a big corp like Amazon to be.)

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I recently wound up in conversation with someone working at Amazon. Inevitably, the convo steered into AI/LLM's at some point. Here is what I learned: - AWS had an in-house LLM tool that was terrible they tried to use for a while - A lot of them still use Kiro - Claude Code is currently the de-facto standard - They're in the process of getting some custom Codex variant that doesn't phone-home and is audited approved…

I am more curious about how much token budget they have. Here I have to beg my boss for more as if he is paying from his pocket or I am using it for my hobby projects (I am not). I guess time to go back to copy/pasting to chat and doing things by hand like a caveman.

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

By that logic links to the FT and the WaPo also couldn't be posted. Which I guess is a fair position to take, but seems too limiting to me.

> seems too limiting to me. articles restricting most users from reading them seems too limiting ban all sites with paywalls/login walls including Twitter, NYT, FT, Business Insider, literally all of them

Seems pretty easy to have a bot automatically try to create an archive link and comment it.

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Sidebar: I love how Amazon basically gave up on AWS Chime for Slack. Even dogfooding their own messaging product didn't work.

IDK how the Chime team managed to make such a garbage product. Like, somehow they managed to make something even worse than Teams with a UI that made Webex look modern. I know there are good product people inside Amazon, so IDK what combination of incentives resulted in Chime.

Whatever the reasons, all Amazon UIs are always pretty awful

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> seems too limiting to me. articles restricting most users from reading them seems too limiting ban all sites with paywalls/login walls including Twitter, NYT, FT, Business Insider, literally all of them

Ok, anyone care to gather at a coffee shop so that we can discuss the print version?

You guys haven't been going to the meetings?

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

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post #8

Sidebar: I love how Amazon basically gave up on AWS Chime for Slack. Even dogfooding their own messaging product didn't work.

IDK how the Chime team managed to make such a garbage product. Like, somehow they managed to make something even worse than Teams with a UI that made Webex look modern. I know there are good product people inside Amazon, so IDK what combination of incentives resulted in Chime.

I'm trying to think of a single Amazon-made product I've used that has a good UI/UX. I guess their main shopping website gets the job done (I would argue their messy product categorization would harm my UX rating of them) but their iOS app is one of the ugliest thing I have installed on my phone.

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

#40

I've never worked in a big corporate environment, so I'm always surprised that these companies allow employees to mock their own products/managers/bosses. (Not saying it shouldn't be allowed, just that it's surprising based on how controlling I'd expect a big corp like Amazon to be.)

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