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Memory decline after menopause linked to loss of estrogen production in brain

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Re: Memory decline after menopause linked to loss of estrogen production in brain

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> Nearly two-thirds of Americans with Alzheimer’s disease (AD) are women, but the reasons why women are more vulnerable are still not fully understood. Scientists have long theorized that the loss of estrogen after menopause may reduce the brain’s natural protection against memory loss and neurodegeneration. The part that makes no sense for me is men ending with smaller rates of dementia, given they had much less est…

Men have significant estrogen: Men: roughly 10–40 pg/mL Women (not at ovulation): roughly 30–40 pg/mL At Ovulation, women spike. Hence, libido changes. If you know, you know.

Think you. I didn't know there was such overlap in the levels between both genders. Do men's levels also take a hit with age?

Re: Memory decline after menopause linked to loss of estrogen production in brain

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> Nearly two-thirds of Americans with Alzheimer’s disease (AD) are women, but the reasons why women are more vulnerable are still not fully understood. Scientists have long theorized that the loss of estrogen after menopause may reduce the brain’s natural protection against memory loss and neurodegeneration. The part that makes no sense for me is men ending with smaller rates of dementia, given they had much less est…

This fails to control for the fact that women, on average, live to older ages before dying.

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Eh, are you citing sone peer-reviewed research or are you making stuff up?

It is just a bro science, sorry. Correlation and simple statistics is not real scientific method, and does not fit into modern research!

Then maybe caveat your posts with that

Re: Memory decline after menopause linked to loss of estrogen production in brain

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> Nearly two-thirds of Americans with Alzheimer’s disease (AD) are women, but the reasons why women are more vulnerable are still not fully understood. Scientists have long theorized that the loss of estrogen after menopause may reduce the brain’s natural protection against memory loss and neurodegeneration. The part that makes no sense for me is men ending with smaller rates of dementia, given they had much less est…

I think you’d want to reconsider the assumption that there is a big downside to baldness for sexual attractiveness.

Just anedoctal evidence, but I have a group of older coworkers, most in late 40s-early 50s, all divorced, and by their reports on their attempts at getting back at dating, success pretty much track how much hair is left. That made me a bit upset, as I'm slowly getting bald myself.

Re: Memory decline after menopause linked to loss of estrogen production in brain

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> Nearly two-thirds of Americans with Alzheimer’s disease (AD) are women, but the reasons why women are more vulnerable are still not fully understood. Scientists have long theorized that the loss of estrogen after menopause may reduce the brain’s natural protection against memory loss and neurodegeneration. The part that makes no sense for me is men ending with smaller rates of dementia, given they had much less est…

> I suspect we will still discover some strong unexpected upside to explain why this trait was selected for regardless.

Its not selected for, it merely isn’t selected against

anything that occurs after reproduction starts isn't given the opportunity to be weeded out of the population

in this case, genes are passed into new humans overwhelmingly by men in their teens and twenties and thirties (with some stark outliers)

Re: Memory decline after menopause linked to loss of estrogen production in brain

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Estrogen (specifically Estradiol, E2) is one of the most important systemic hormones in both men and women I've spent a significant amount of my free time for the last 15 years studying androgen physiology and self-experimentation. Here are a few facts about estradiol that others might find surprising: 1. E2 acts as a master metabolic/energy regulator in humans. ER-alpha and pan-ER agonists are being developed for ob…

Estrogen becomes a real problem for people experimenting with anabolic steroids or even taking some of the TRT regimens which go past replacement doses and into performance enhancing territory.

Testosterone is converted into estradiol by aromatase, so people who boost their testosterone up to high levels get more estradiol as a result.

As an aside: Aromatase is present in body fat, so higher body fat will produce more sites for testosterone to convert to estradiol. This is one reason why higher body fat is correlated with lower testosterone. It’s also one reason why the decline of testosterone levels are correlated with the rise of obesity and you shouldn’t trust anyone who rants about declining testosterone levels without acknowledging that major correlation.

Back on topic: The increased estradiol production from excess testosterone can go above the normal range in men, which can cause a wide range of mental and physical problems. It can even promote growth of breast tissue that when left unchecked needs to be surgically removed later. Surgeons who deal with gynecomastia are seeing booming business right now due to all of the men going to TRT clinics and getting blasted with crazy doses of testosterone.

There are medications which reduce aromatase activity but they are very hard to get right. It’s a common story for men to suffer from excess estradiol after manipulating their testosterone, so they assume they can fix it with an aromatase inhibitor. They take slightly too much (which is very easy due to the dosing and duration of action) and crash their estradiol levels too low. Between the sudden swing in levels and the low level they can find themselves feeling a different kind of terrible. Someone I know become suicidal after taking an aromatase inhibitor at the ‘normal’ recommending broscience dosage. It took weeks to clear due to the dynamics of how everything returns to equilibrium. Very scary time.

Estradiol is highly active in the brain including regulation of key functions like MAO (the enzyme inhibited by MAOI antidepressants). One of many reasons why out-of-range levels or sudden fluctuations can make people feel bad in various ways.

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I think you’d want to reconsider the assumption that there is a big downside to baldness for sexual attractiveness.

Just anedoctal evidence, but I have a group of older coworkers, most in late 40s-early 50s, all divorced, and by their reports on their attempts at getting back at dating, success pretty much track how much hair is left. That made me a bit upset, as I'm slowly getting bald myself.

there is a huge difference between balding and bald

nobody wants to see a guy in denial clinging onto something, lean in fully

and yes it is unfortunate that different people are attracted to the bald variant than the ones you already know, but you gotta show resolve and confidence

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> baldness, and the downside of the condition for sexual attractiveness of its bearers Just a guess, and I highly doubt there are any reliable statistics on this, but perhaps balding men are less likely to be tempted to abandon their family unit, thereby making it more likely that their children will thrive and carry on their genes? I base this theory on my own experience, which is that I went completely bald in my e…

Just chiming in for anyone else reading this and worried about their hair thinning, this is a thing men worry about much more than women. Bruce Willis, Patrick Stewart, Michael Jordan, Vin Diesel - there have been plenty of bald sex symbols and plenty of women who enjoy that look (and the look of many average men of various builds and ages) The factors of attractiveness are by far more related to basic self care (hyg…

I just want to add that I wholeheartedly agree with this, and I would hate for anyone who's losing their hair to conclude that it's the end of the road for their love life.

Good grooming, a good sense of humor, and most importantly, generally being a good person, are what really matter.

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So they should drink more beer then? btw guys, stop drinking beer. Makes you so so fat and give you tits. The more you know.

And for me - total stomach mess too.

For sure, beer is a great cure for constipation in that it causes liquid stools.

Re: Memory decline after menopause linked to loss of estrogen production in brain

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Yes, I didn’t address that portion of your original post, as I was silently agreeing with you that men perform vital social and economic activity such as pick-up truck, football, and bitcoin, whereas women do nothing all day save for frivolous non-labor activities such as raising children.

Not sure you’re raising children when you’re 65.

Probably not, but I thought we were discussing all related preventative activities for the full span of the comfortable life.
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