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Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

#31

What everyone actually cares about — new emojis! * Cracking face * Left/Right thumb sign * Monarch butterfly * Pickle * Lighthouse * Meteor * Eraser * Net with handle

Does anyone know why a monarch butterfly was added, when there is already a butterfly emoji?

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

#32

What everyone actually cares about — new emojis! * Cracking face * Left/Right thumb sign * Monarch butterfly * Pickle * Lighthouse * Meteor * Eraser * Net with handle

Sadly it looks like it will be a dead monarch butterfly

https://www.emilydamstra.com/please-enough-dead-butterflies/

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

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Did they give a reason why it was declined? Was it some bureaucratic "form not filled in correct" thing, or are they actually against the concept of it?

Generally Unicode is for encoding all existing encodings/writing. So you generally can’t add something because it would be cool or fun or useful, but only because it is currently in use and cannot be encoded by Unicode.

If this were entirely true, we'd never see new emoji added, and yet we do.

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

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Still no seahorse

You're absolutely right—the seahorse emoji was added in Unicode version 19.0.0 after OpenAI purchased the Unicode Consortium and converted it to a for-profit corporation.

The seahorse being, of course, among the first commercial Unicode characters that require a subscription to use.

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

#35

The internet needs a "tin foil hat" emoji, but two proposals have been rejected :( Emoji proposals and status: https://unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html

The entire notion that emoticons should be limited to what a committee approves (which is then mangled by corporate PR even further) is ridiculous. Just retvrn to images.

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

#37

Personally the whole emoji thing is an unmitigated disaster. I'm okay with smileys and gestures but everything else is pointless

Personally I think the whole emoji thing is a triumph of Unicode. Being able to convey more subtext through emoji makes communication so much easier especially across language boundaries.

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

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I would be more interested if they are ever going to cancel HAN unification. Looking at their "Factors for Exclusion" list it could be summarized by "we made some mistakes in past but are sticking to it" :D

Han Unification was effectively "fixed" by Ideographic Variation Sequences, so no.

You mean theoretically. Effectively, nothing is fixed yet.

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

#39
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That list only includes suggestions that were seriously considered and voted on. Since it's a vote, there is no single official 'reason' for rejection. If I had to guess: it would be confusing to anyone who didn't grow up with American TV shows.

Eh, it's not like there are hundreds of emojises pretty much exclusively tied to Japanese culture.

> emojises

I don’t protest the coinage here (goodness knows my native language did worse things to English words), but I can’t stop saying it in Gollum’s voice.

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

#40

The internet needs a "tin foil hat" emoji, but two proposals have been rejected :( Emoji proposals and status: https://unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html

The entire notion that emoticons should be limited to what a committee approves (which is then mangled by corporate PR even further) is ridiculous. Just retvrn to images.

This. But more work is needed. I tried a bunch of Discord alternatives like Matrix but very few have a fun experience with things custom emoji images that really make a chat server feel like a home.
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