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Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

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Post by poulpy123 »

looking at the changes it makes me wonder:

- is there an usable font the cover all unicode ?

- if not is there really a point to include everything possible in unicode ?

- how many space is remaining for new alphabet and smileys ?

- how do they handle changes in scripts, for example if new proto-cuneiform or seal script symbols are discovered ?

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

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Post by pveierland »

poulpy123 wrote: post #5

looking at the changes it makes me wonder: - is there an usable font the cover all unicode ? - if not is there really a point to include everything possible in unicode ? - how many space is remaining for new alphabet and smileys ? - how do they handle changes in scripts, for example if new proto-cuneiform or seal script symbols are discovered ?

The Noto fonts have great coverage: https://notofonts.github.io/overview/

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

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Post by JohnKemeny »

chirsz wrote: post #3
orangepanda wrote: post #2

What everyone actually cares about — new emojis! * Cracking face * Left/Right thumb sign * Monarch butterfly * Pickle * Lighthouse * Meteor * Eraser * Net with handle

Still no seahorse

If the seahorse emoji is introduced, we will have to train new foundation models. The costs connected to the introduction of the seahorse emoji will be in the billions.

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

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Post by Rp8yXmdmr »

orangepanda wrote: post #2

What everyone actually cares about — new emojis! * Cracking face * Left/Right thumb sign * Monarch butterfly * Pickle * Lighthouse * Meteor * Eraser * Net with handle

I would be more interested if they are ever going to cancel HAN unification. Looking at their "Factors for Exclusion" list it could be summarized by "we made some mistakes in past but are sticking to it" :D

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

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Post by turblety »

computer23 wrote: post #4

The internet needs a "tin foil hat" emoji, but two proposals have been rejected :( Emoji proposals and status: https://unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html

Did they give a reason why it was declined? Was it some bureaucratic "form not filled in correct" thing, or are they actually against the concept of it?

Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta

#10

Post by wongarsu »

poulpy123 wrote: post #5

looking at the changes it makes me wonder: - is there an usable font the cover all unicode ? - if not is there really a point to include everything possible in unicode ? - how many space is remaining for new alphabet and smileys ? - how do they handle changes in scripts, for example if new proto-cuneiform or seal script symbols are discovered ?

> if not is there really a point to include everything possible in unicode ?

Needing to load three fonts to show a single document that mixes vastly different character sets is still infinitely better than not being able to have those different characters in the same .txt or .md file at all

> how many space is remaining for new alphabet and smileys ?

Unicode can encode about 1100k code points, and about 800k of those are currently unassigned and available for future scripts or characters

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