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Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do tell me how young people can help with AI shaping, as this just sounds like "how cows can help shape the meat industry"

They can learn the skills to advance research and fill the roles that help determine what sorts of guard rails there should/could be to ensure it’s used in as helpful a manner as possible.

If you are naive enough to believe that, the moment you create problems for your bosses, you can be fired and replaced by some other naive person.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Unsurprising he'd be cheered for saying what they wanted to hear.

But perhaps whether or not his stance is correct, the students needed to hear this. They (we) have to believe human brains still have value and find a way out; for otherwise there'd be no point to try anymore.

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Actual intelligence is useless when decision makers send new weekly AI rules to be better employees. It’s race to the bottom. Race to an endless technical debt. Some companies will implode when codebases stop being manageable. The small minority will thrive. But majority not. I see it used in hardware world. Clever dudes without prior experience with software craft working Python scripts, automate tests, control hardware from rudimentary GUIs. That’s awesome. I see software companies sending internal memo requiring all code to be produced from prompts… It’s like steroids - cleverly used they bring more advantages, though one shouldn’t take double dose with every meal.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can learn the skills to advance research and fill the roles that help determine what sorts of guard rails there should/could be to ensure it’s used in as helpful a manner as possible.

Do you think in the world of the Military Industrial Complex and the zero-sum game that is Great Power geopolitics, we will have any guardrails?

Trying to be optimistic, at least we didn't experience nuclear destruction at planetary scale...

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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I really like how he approaces AI. Not the tone other leaders are talking, but much more human and much more collaborative. How young people actually can help with the AI shaping. For example Eric Schmidt was really terrible at his speach in front of University of Arizona.

Do tell me how young people can help with AI shaping, as this just sounds like "how cows can help shape the meat industry"

Now, more than ever, I think young people are cows for the economic meat grinder. It takes me to one of my favourite quotes:

"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children."

I think we've forgotten this. We are not paying it forward any more as a society.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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I really like how he approaces AI. Not the tone other leaders are talking, but much more human and much more collaborative. How young people actually can help with the AI shaping. For example Eric Schmidt was really terrible at his speach in front of University of Arizona.

I wonder how Steve Jobs would've reacted to this GenAI boom. He constantly talked about the intersection of Humanities and tech, as well as fostering creativity by pushing people to their limits (for the better or worse), so I don't think he'd be one of those CEOs that's first in line to get rid of human workers as much as possible. Or maybe he would be and I'm just giving him too much credit. On an unrelated note, I…

> I wonder how Steve Jobs would've reacted to this GenAI boom.

Steve believed “you’ve got to start with the customer experience and work backwards to the technology”.

https://youtu.be/EZll3dJ2AjY?t=114

Which, to their credit, seems to be what Apple tried to do with Apple Intelligence and was already doing with Machine Learning. But if under Steve they had over promised and under delivered—like what happened under Cook—some heads would probably have rolled.

> I wonder if Siri has gotten any better.

Nope. There are rumours the new one will use Gemini and be better, but who knows. We’ve heard this before.

> I haven't seen anything to understand what Apple Intelligence actually means.

When it was announced, I thought it was a brilliant piece marketing in the sense of associating the “A” in AI with Apple. But then it turned out to be trash, so turns out the association is a hindrance. Anyway, you know how Microsoft uses “Copilot” for anything they ship which has “AI” in it? That’s Apple Intelligence. It’s the umbrella term for anything anywhere in one of their products where they use any kind of AI/ML.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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The original title says he “got cheers” which is much less ambiguous than the HN title

Not to me... Maybe a ESL thing

"Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence "

Could be interpreted as Steve himself cheered. Or it could be interpreted as the passive which is meant here but I would argue it should then say "Steve Wozniak cheered at after telling..." but I am not a native speaker.

The original title "Apple cofounder Steve Wozniak got cheers, not boos, after telling students they 'all have AI — actual intelligence'" can not be interpreted in the way that Steve cheered as far as I know.

Where would the skill issue be? Please be specific.

How is the original title not less ambiguous to you? Do you see other interpretations than I mentioned above or do you disagree with my interpretations?

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do tell me how young people can help with AI shaping, as this just sounds like "how cows can help shape the meat industry"

They can start by voting for politicians who will rein in big tech

There is no politician who stands against big tech and by extension big money
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