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Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by sweetheart »

ramon156 wrote: post #8
rebekkamikkoa wrote: post #2

I really like how he approaces AI. Not the tone other leaders are talking, but much more human and much more collaborative. How young people actually can help with the AI shaping. For example Eric Schmidt was really terrible at his speach in front of University of Arizona.

Do tell me how young people can help with AI shaping, as this just sounds like "how cows can help shape the meat industry"

They can learn the skills to advance research and fill the roles that help determine what sorts of guard rails there should/could be to ensure it’s used in as helpful a manner as possible.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by block_dagger »

ramon156 wrote: post #8
rebekkamikkoa wrote: post #2

I really like how he approaces AI. Not the tone other leaders are talking, but much more human and much more collaborative. How young people actually can help with the AI shaping. For example Eric Schmidt was really terrible at his speach in front of University of Arizona.

Do tell me how young people can help with AI shaping, as this just sounds like "how cows can help shape the meat industry"

Ah, so the students were saying “moo,” not “boo.”

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by limflick »

rebekkamikkoa wrote: post #2

I really like how he approaces AI. Not the tone other leaders are talking, but much more human and much more collaborative. How young people actually can help with the AI shaping. For example Eric Schmidt was really terrible at his speach in front of University of Arizona.

I wonder how Steve Jobs would've reacted to this GenAI boom. He constantly talked about the intersection of Humanities and tech, as well as fostering creativity by pushing people to their limits (for the better or worse), so I don't think he'd be one of those CEOs that's first in line to get rid of human workers as much as possible. Or maybe he would be and I'm just giving him too much credit.

On an unrelated note, I haven't used an Iphone since 2018 and I wonder if Siri has gotten any better. I do see "Apple Intelligence" being advertised everywhere and besides AI summaries of texts on the notifications bar I haven't seen anything to understand what Apple Intelligence actually means.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by embedding-shape »

rebekkamikkoa wrote: post #2

I really like how he approaces AI. Not the tone other leaders are talking, but much more human and much more collaborative. How young people actually can help with the AI shaping. For example Eric Schmidt was really terrible at his speach in front of University of Arizona.

There seems to be a mental shift that happens around 30-50 (depending on the person) where the mindset changes from "How can I learn and contribute to world?" to "How can I make the world work the way I want?" and it's very noticeable in the public speaking engagements these people do, as this mindset seems to blend with all their other thoughts and feelings.

Luckily, this doesn't seem to happen to everyone, especially if you aren't a public figure, a billionaire nor a successful startup founder, but that particular combination seems to make it extra likely you experience this transformation.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by embedding-shape »

limflick wrote: post #13
rebekkamikkoa wrote: post #2

I really like how he approaces AI. Not the tone other leaders are talking, but much more human and much more collaborative. How young people actually can help with the AI shaping. For example Eric Schmidt was really terrible at his speach in front of University of Arizona.

I wonder how Steve Jobs would've reacted to this GenAI boom. He constantly talked about the intersection of Humanities and tech, as well as fostering creativity by pushing people to their limits (for the better or worse), so I don't think he'd be one of those CEOs that's first in line to get rid of human workers as much as possible. Or maybe he would be and I'm just giving him too much credit. On an unrelated note, I…

Yeah, hard to guess how a person would react to transformative technology, together with whatever context it'd be brought up, their reaction could differ.

I too would say Jobs probably would have an human angle on it, but he also famously was a tyrant who struggled with people not doing exactly what he asked, and could be slightly nitpicky about that, maybe having a robot that follows exactly what he wrote, to a fault, would be a machine he'd greatly enjoy.

Or he'd throw it in the trash with some flourish of words explaining how a machine could never feel frustrated so therefore couldn't great excellent products, or something.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by jappgar »

ramon156 wrote: post #8
rebekkamikkoa wrote: post #2

I really like how he approaces AI. Not the tone other leaders are talking, but much more human and much more collaborative. How young people actually can help with the AI shaping. For example Eric Schmidt was really terrible at his speach in front of University of Arizona.

Do tell me how young people can help with AI shaping, as this just sounds like "how cows can help shape the meat industry"

They can start by voting for politicians who will rein in big tech

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by muddi900 »

sweetheart wrote: post #11
ramon156 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do tell me how young people can help with AI shaping, as this just sounds like "how cows can help shape the meat industry"

They can learn the skills to advance research and fill the roles that help determine what sorts of guard rails there should/could be to ensure it’s used in as helpful a manner as possible.

Do you think in the world of the Military Industrial Complex and the zero-sum game that is Great Power geopolitics, we will have any guardrails?

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by embedding-shape »

ramon156 wrote: post #8
rebekkamikkoa wrote: post #2

I really like how he approaces AI. Not the tone other leaders are talking, but much more human and much more collaborative. How young people actually can help with the AI shaping. For example Eric Schmidt was really terrible at his speach in front of University of Arizona.

Do tell me how young people can help with AI shaping, as this just sounds like "how cows can help shape the meat industry"

To be fair, if you're a cow, you don't have much say in it, the world continues to revolve, and not around you, but you still need to find your place, or at least find peace with not finding your place.

Every teenager goes through it, some still try to find their place until the day they day, but we all grow up in vastly different contexts and environments compared to what we experience as adults, and stuff keeps happening around us that we don't like, maybe don't even want to participate in, but because of the lack of alternatives, you don't really have a choice.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by limflick »

ramon156 wrote: post #8
rebekkamikkoa wrote: post #2

I really like how he approaces AI. Not the tone other leaders are talking, but much more human and much more collaborative. How young people actually can help with the AI shaping. For example Eric Schmidt was really terrible at his speach in front of University of Arizona.

Do tell me how young people can help with AI shaping, as this just sounds like "how cows can help shape the meat industry"

I guess an optimistic way to look at this would be to treat this as just another layer of abstraction, meaning people could focus on larger scale problems moving forward, similar to how the evolution of programming languages influenced development time, quality and the quantity of software being put out. The question is at what price does all of this abstraction come at, assuming AI continues to evolve at its current rate.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Post by sweetheart »

muddi900 wrote: post #17
sweetheart wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can learn the skills to advance research and fill the roles that help determine what sorts of guard rails there should/could be to ensure it’s used in as helpful a manner as possible.

Do you think in the world of the Military Industrial Complex and the zero-sum game that is Great Power geopolitics, we will have any guardrails?

I think it’s possible.
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