Well, Zed is a text editor with some plugins, while JetBrains products are full-blown IDEs, with abilities Zed will never offer.
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#32I had my (somewhat) breakup when they started advertising their code assistant at me. My IDE is my home. You push an advertisement at me and I get mad. I killed my subscription (with 1/2 a year left) and loaded the old version and haven't looked back. I will eventually give it up completely since new python versions aren't supported for debugging but oh well.
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#33I swear : Good JVM settings can make Jetbrains IDEs fly with performance. Startup is way faster too. I like ZGC. And having the IDE grab more RAM immediately on startup than the default. Something like Xms=4g or however it's done. I cannot understand why Jetbrains keep the VM settings as constrained as they do. It's a big difference.
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#36of course an editor like Zed is faster than CLion but it makes little sense to compare the two. People use full blown IDEs like Jetbrains or Visual Studio for their heavier features like debugging and profiling, not because they feel snappy. When I write C++ my workflow has always been to use vim for editing and use VS for debugging.
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#37Well, Zed is a text editor with some plugins, while JetBrains products are full-blown IDEs, with abilities Zed will never offer.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes I have read that, and whatever, some people rather walk straight away, because waiting for the car to warm up takes a few minutes. I have IDE tooling experience since Borland products for MS-DOS, and plenty of programming editors as well, between PC, Amiga, Mac and UNIX clones.
Idk what car you have but mine can drive right away, just like Zed.
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#39For C# development Jetbrains Rider is second to none.
The number of static analysis, refactorings, inspections, dynamic analysis, slow code paths hightlights, profiling, etc.
It just cannot be done in neovim no matter how I would like to switch.
For C++ (like the OP’s case) — maybe the situation is different. I’ve heard CLion is a meh.
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Also Jetbrains IdeaVim plugin is the best vim emulation I’ve seen. Nothing comes close with vim plugins support, vimrc, and what have you.
I tried vim mode in Zed — it’s a joke. Immediately uninstalled and got back to vscode, at least it has some vimrc support for custom bindings.
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Also I don’t get the start-up argument: just don’t close the app, dummy :-). YMMV of course depending on the language.
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tldr; there is nothing to replace rider with. Because Rider is an actual IDE with tons of proprietary bells and whistles that actually matter
Then again, my dev machine is a Threadripper with tons of ram. I would probably sing a different song if I needed to work on a macbook air with 16gb of ram.
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#40The thing is, I don't know what I'd use otherwise. I demand an actual IDE, not a text editor that allows me to install a ton of plugins to make it into a half-baked IDE (ie, vim).
Maybe I should actually give VSCode a strong try. I've only used it as a code viewer for anything that's not Python.