I have no problem with my credentials being revoked everywhere before I know about a layoff. I don't really care how I learn about it, just please don't make me come in to the office.
So this was why the FBI Director Kash Patel was in a panic when he couldn't log in one day. Revoking credentials before firing someone makes a lot of sense in security.
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remind me of a forum a long time ago that sent me my password in clear when I used the "forgot password" link. When I advised them that it was a bad idea to store password in clear, they answered that they keep it in clear so that they can send it when someone forget. Defeated by such argument, I deleted my account.
I've got a better one. I once had the same argument mentioned to me by my manager at the time when I pointed out that passwords were being stored in clear text. That it needs to be this way so that it is read/sent when the users forget their passwords(which happened a lot). I tried to explain that typically a "reset password" flow is used for that but that fell on deaf ears. That system contained healthcare data. Som…
This is the sort of thing that makes me want to check out of the whole circus. Here I am, telling you ahead of time, and you ignored me
So how there's a circus that we could have avoided and not only do I get zero recognition for identifying the threat ahead of time, the people who ignored me keep their jobs and turn it into a zoo where everyone is scrambling in endless meetings
And I've seen it play out a few times. After a point, why bother...
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#33so, apparently, the passwords were stored in cleartext.
Remind me of a forum a long time ago that sent me my password in clear when I used the "forgot password" link. When I advised them that it was a bad idea to store password in clear, they answered that they keep it in clear so that they can send it when someone forget. Defeated by such argument, I deleted my account.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> just please don't make me come in to the office. But how do you pick up the stuff from your desk? I once lost a nice pair of headphones this way.
Meh. Don't leave anything at work. Forgo the convenience and carry your things on your commute. Use a bag. If there's "too much stuff", that's a sign to pare back what you "need" at work.
Still a net positive in my experience.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
no, becaus the simple and pragmatic solution for ANYONE who is subject to arbitrary termination, is to litter everything they build with caltrops and dead man triggers and then hint that they will go into "consulting" when fired. I know of one case where this was totaly unintentional, and a machinest at a local pulp and paper plant had self delegated to write the software that controlled tension on the giant machines…
Or if you don't want to booby trap your code, buy one of those tiny devices that make a cricket noise randomly every 5-15 minutes, and hide it somewhere in the restroom. https://annoyingpcb.com/
What you really need is one that chirps once every (multiple of) 20-28 hours (with weighting towards 23-25 to keep it roughly around the time you set it going and an infrequent skipping of a day.) Also with different volumes and, ideally, different chirps. Occasionally a double chirp just for extra insanity causing.
(A Michael Jackson "hee heee" would be another good option.)
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#37> On Feb. 1, 2025, Muneeb Akhter asked Sohaib Akhter for the plaintext password of an individual who submitted a complaint to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission’s Public Portal, which was maintained by the Akhters’ employer. Sohaib Akhter conducted a database query on the EEOC database and then provided the password to Muneeb Akhter. That password was subsequently used to access that individual’s email accou…
This is what I want to know. Are there any consequences for this contractor? At least fraud or negligence or something?
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#39Getting close to the classic Monty Python line: "Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked."
Jokes aside, stuff like this sucks because I suspect many employers will take from it the most extreme, dehumanizing lessons, e.g.: (a) make firings [edit: including lay-offs] as abrupt as possible including terminating all access immediately, (b) never give second chances to anyone with any sort of criminal record (even say decades old marijuana posession or something).
I'd prefer a more balanced version: limit unilateral access to sensitive systems in general (not just of recently-fired employees), when someone is fired immediately shut off particularly sensitive credentials if they do exist (but not their general-purpose login/email account), avoid hiring people convicted of wire fraud as sysadmins, hash your @!#$ing passwords, etc.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, who else would you hire for the circus?
Perhaps don't hire people who act as foreign adversaries for government work? Is that really such an absurd proposition?
In fact I’d guess they’re not, since they’ve been employed on government projects since a young age.