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Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

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Re: Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this was why the FBI Director Kash Patel was in a panic when he couldn't log in one day. Revoking credentials before firing someone makes a lot of sense in security.

no, becaus the simple and pragmatic solution for ANYONE who is subject to arbitrary termination, is to litter everything they build with caltrops and dead man triggers and then hint that they will go into "consulting" when fired. I know of one case where this was totaly unintentional, and a machinest at a local pulp and paper plant had self delegated to write the software that controlled tension on the giant machines…

That is some top notch wrongthink… HN does NOT find it funny!

Re: Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

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I have no problem with my credentials being revoked everywhere before I know about a layoff. I don't really care how I learn about it, just please don't make me come in to the office.

> just please don't make me come in to the office.

But how do you pick up the stuff from your desk? I once lost a nice pair of headphones this way.

Re: Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this was why the FBI Director Kash Patel was in a panic when he couldn't log in one day. Revoking credentials before firing someone makes a lot of sense in security.

no, becaus the simple and pragmatic solution for ANYONE who is subject to arbitrary termination, is to litter everything they build with caltrops and dead man triggers and then hint that they will go into "consulting" when fired. I know of one case where this was totaly unintentional, and a machinest at a local pulp and paper plant had self delegated to write the software that controlled tension on the giant machines…

Or if you don't want to booby trap your code, buy one of those tiny devices that make a cricket noise randomly every 5-15 minutes, and hide it somewhere in the restroom.

https://annoyingpcb.com/

Re: Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

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post #2

I have no problem with my credentials being revoked everywhere before I know about a layoff. I don't really care how I learn about it, just please don't make me come in to the office.

> just please don't make me come in to the office. But how do you pick up the stuff from your desk? I once lost a nice pair of headphones this way.

Meh. Don't leave anything at work. Forgo the convenience and carry your things on your commute. Use a bag. If there's "too much stuff", that's a sign to pare back what you "need" at work.

Re: Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

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How on earth did someone previously convicted of what sounds like hacking get job access to so many prod government databases? Wild that it took them so long to get caught.

And I recently couldn't get a job through a federal contractor for a federal position (requiring NO security clearance) because they didn't like something on my credit report.

Re: Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

#27
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How on earth did someone previously convicted of what sounds like hacking get job access to so many prod government databases? Wild that it took them so long to get caught.

I had the same questions. Apparently discovery of the prior conviction is what lead to them being fired: > When the company discovered Sohaib Akhter’s felony conviction, it terminated both brothers’ employment during an online remote meeting on Feb. 18, 2025 from https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/federal-jury-convicts-virgina... which is a better source on this. That prompts the question of why background checks are so…

The company involved here is apparently based in Washington, DC, which has a "Ban the Box" ordinance that limits employment background checks for most kinds of jobs. And apparently DC's version of the law is particularly strict.

Re: Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

#28

It’s crazy that people are desperate for jobs and these clowns get hired.

Well, who else would you hire for the circus?

Perhaps don't hire people who act as foreign adversaries for government work? Is that really such an absurd proposition?

Re: Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

#29

so, apparently, the passwords were stored in cleartext.

Remind me of a forum a long time ago that sent me my password in clear when I used the "forgot password" link. When I advised them that it was a bad idea to store password in clear, they answered that they keep it in clear so that they can send it when someone forget. Defeated by such argument, I deleted my account.

There was a screenshot of some website floating around a few years ago, where if you entered the correct password but a wrong username, it would helpfully tell you which user the password is really for.

Re: Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, who else would you hire for the circus?

Perhaps don't hire people who act as foreign adversaries for government work? Is that really such an absurd proposition?

I don't think they were spies. They have ethnic names, but it sounds like they are just good ol' red-blooded Yankee crooks.
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