Would it ever be possible to have this kind of laptops but with ARM CPUs?
Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#32I love my Framework laptop. The only thing I haven't seen mentioned in detail is the expansion card bay redesign. Current F13 expansion cards will pull out sometimes when you remove a USB cable, which is a real annoyance. F11 fixed this by creating optional set screws you can install on the inside of the machine that forces the expansion cards to stay engaged. I know F13pro has redesigned the switches for removing ex…
I've had the framework 13 since batch 5 of their original first model and that has never happened to me once. Are you sure you're pushing the expansion cards _all the way_ in? They should click and the little button between the cards should pop up slightly more when the cards are fully inserted. It is certainly possible to have the cards visually look inserted and work normally but haven't actually been pushed in far enough to click/lock into place.
FWIW I've also replaced my chassis once, and never had this issue with either chassis.
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#33This is what I don't get, among computer uses, apple macs are a minority. I even went around at Linux conferences and counted, like 30-40%.
Why are they so so dedicated to being as much as a look and feel clone as Mac as possible?
I've got zero interest in a MacBook chaser. It's not like those are inaccessible to me. I've voluntarily said no to them. Why would I want someone else's imitation of it?
"If you can see here we've meticulously cloned every detail of the product you are definitionally not interested in because you are here!"
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#34Would it ever be possible to have this kind of laptops but with ARM CPUs?
There are already 3rd party boards with ARM chips
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but if you factor in the possibility of never having to do a full system upgrade again, and instead just upgrading individual parts (including the chassis) as needed, the long term cost of ownership would be way lower if you commit to framework
Everything I've read about Frameworks quality control makes the above very doubtful. If you watch the sales on other laptops you can easily get similar specs for half of what framework is charging. I have a 5070TI laptop I purchased for around 1200$ after a rebate. Not only does the Framework 16 only offer the significantly weaker 5070 addon, it ends up totalling to about 2500$. Maybe in 5 or 6 years Framework will s…
> If you watch the sales on other laptops you can easily get similar specs for half of what framework is charging. I have a 5070TI laptop I purchased for around 1200$ after a rebate.
Just to be clear: You are comparing today's Framework regular prices to a laptop you bought months or years ago, on sale?
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#36This is what I don't get, among computer uses, apple macs are a minority. I even went around at Linux conferences and counted, like 30-40%. Why are they so so dedicated to being as much as a look and feel clone as Mac as possible? I've got zero interest in a MacBook chaser. It's not like those are inaccessible to me. I've voluntarily said no to them. Why would I want someone else's imitation of it? "If you can see he…
You’re confusing the look of the device with the feel of the OS.
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#37I love my Framework laptop. The only thing I haven't seen mentioned in detail is the expansion card bay redesign. Current F13 expansion cards will pull out sometimes when you remove a USB cable, which is a real annoyance. F11 fixed this by creating optional set screws you can install on the inside of the machine that forces the expansion cards to stay engaged. I know F13pro has redesigned the switches for removing ex…
I have an early 13 and find the expansion cards take a lot of effort to remove, so maybe it’s a batch thing. Seems like the new 13 redesigned it a bit anyway. I’ll probably get the new bottom so I can use the new battery.
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#38I like their openness on hardware design. They open sourced their design under CC-BY-4.0 (surprisingly no NC!) in hope that it could enable reuse [1]. However, the whole thing is overpriced. Quoting kingsleyopara's comment 4 days ago [2], ...matching specs it comes out as more expensive than the MBP - even worse when you factor in potential discounts/sales which framework doesn't offer. Framework 13 Pro: £2064 (Ultra…
Comparing Apples to Oranges. Apple only makes disposable devices now. They're a megacorp can negotiate massive discounts at every stage of the supply chain. I've helped several people in the last few years set up new Macs, replacing ones that were only 1-2 years old, because they ran out of storage. Additionally, the comparison doesn't even hold true when you need more than the base configs from Apple, given their ri…
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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#39I love my Framework laptop. The only thing I haven't seen mentioned in detail is the expansion card bay redesign. Current F13 expansion cards will pull out sometimes when you remove a USB cable, which is a real annoyance. F11 fixed this by creating optional set screws you can install on the inside of the machine that forces the expansion cards to stay engaged. I know F13pro has redesigned the switches for removing ex…
I've had the framework 13 since batch 5 of their original first model and that has never happened to me once. Are you sure you're pushing the expansion cards _all the way_ in? They should click and the little button between the cards should pop up slightly more when the cards are fully inserted. It is certainly possible to have the cards visually look inserted and work normally but haven't actually been pushed in far…
Yeah they are, but I've got some admittedly snug USB cables on my charger, other cables don't do it. I've looked at the latch mechanism and it seems sharp and not worn down, and it clicks when I put it in. I suspect the button on the bottom gets pressed accidentally and unseats the latch.
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#40I love my Framework laptop. The only thing I haven't seen mentioned in detail is the expansion card bay redesign. Current F13 expansion cards will pull out sometimes when you remove a USB cable, which is a real annoyance. F11 fixed this by creating optional set screws you can install on the inside of the machine that forces the expansion cards to stay engaged. I know F13pro has redesigned the switches for removing ex…
I've had the framework 13 since batch 5 of their original first model and that has never happened to me once. Are you sure you're pushing the expansion cards _all the way_ in? They should click and the little button between the cards should pop up slightly more when the cards are fully inserted. It is certainly possible to have the cards visually look inserted and work normally but haven't actually been pushed in far…
Yeah if anything I've always had the opposite problem with my FW13 (12th gen Intel era) - removing the expansion cards is a pain in the ass with how tight it is. Curious if it got looser over time.
Regardless, glad to see they're just outright redesigned the expansion card mechanism, hopefully this stops issues on both ends of the spectrum.