We'll see what happens when it ships. Honestly I expect significantly cheaper laptops from other oems.
Apples to oranges. NO other OEM makes a modular laptop yet.
Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#12I like their openness on hardware design. They open sourced their design under CC-BY-4.0 (surprisingly no NC!) in hope that it could enable reuse [1].
However, the whole thing is overpriced. Quoting kingsleyopara's comment 4 days ago [2],
...matching specs it comes out as more expensive than the MBP - even worse when you factor in potential discounts/sales which framework doesn't offer.
Framework 13 Pro: £2064 (Ultra X7 358H, 16GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter)
Framework 13 Pro: £2264 (Ultra X7 358H, 32GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter)
MacBook Pro 14: £1699 (M5, 16GB, 1TB, no adapter)
MacBook Pro 14: £2099 (M5, 32GB, 1TB, no adapter)
MacBook Pro 14: £2199 (M5 Pro, 24GB, 1TB, no adapter) - added as I think it’s an even better deal
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#13Interesting that the new laptop is selling beyond their expectation, and that the Ubuntu version is outselling the Windows one. Maybe their customer base is a "niche", but it seems to be one that makes them good coin nevertheless.
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#14I like their openness on hardware design. They open sourced their design under CC-BY-4.0 (surprisingly no NC!) in hope that it could enable reuse [1]. However, the whole thing is overpriced. Quoting kingsleyopara's comment 4 days ago [2], ...matching specs it comes out as more expensive than the MBP - even worse when you factor in potential discounts/sales which framework doesn't offer. Framework 13 Pro: £2064 (Ultra…
I mean yeah they’re right but it’s not like the difference is particularly staggering. And unfortunately having control and quality runs a premium these days.
Plus depending on what you’re upgrading it could very well save you money in the long run, as the parts you can replace or upgrade yourself in an MBpro are few and far between. The few things you can replace often cost an arm and a leg and require way more technical expertise than a framework demands.
Also, Mac lock in. Not something to lightly ignore. Framework will run basically anything except MacOS.
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#15Not sure why would I preorder a laptop of all things. It looks interesting, but I’d rather wait until the reviews are out.
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#16I love my Framework laptop. The only thing I haven't seen mentioned in detail is the expansion card bay redesign. Current F13 expansion cards will pull out sometimes when you remove a USB cable, which is a real annoyance. F11 fixed this by creating optional set screws you can install on the inside of the machine that forces the expansion cards to stay engaged.
I know F13pro has redesigned the switches for removing expansion cards, and that the design was headed by the same person who did the F11, so I'm really hoping for set screws or some sort of similar "true" locking mechanism.
If anyone from Framework is reading this, would you be able to fill in some details?
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#17Not sure why would I preorder a laptop of all things. It looks interesting, but I’d rather wait until the reviews are out.
Because there’s a hardware shortage going on. I can see why somebody who needs a new machine commits early.
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#18I'd love to buy, but I have no other choice than a ThinkPad.
- ECC
- trackpoint + 3 buttons, even better without touchpad
It can be bigger. I don't care about the weight.
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#19I like their openness on hardware design. They open sourced their design under CC-BY-4.0 (surprisingly no NC!) in hope that it could enable reuse [1]. However, the whole thing is overpriced. Quoting kingsleyopara's comment 4 days ago [2], ...matching specs it comes out as more expensive than the MBP - even worse when you factor in potential discounts/sales which framework doesn't offer. Framework 13 Pro: £2064 (Ultra…
I mean, yeah. There's a reason other companies don't focus on modularity or repairability. Its not free.
We're not the target audience for this thing, but I'm at least happy there's a way people can put their money where their mouth is.
Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro: Major Upgrades and Linux Front and Center
#20I love my Framework laptop. The only thing I haven't seen mentioned in detail is the expansion card bay redesign. Current F13 expansion cards will pull out sometimes when you remove a USB cable, which is a real annoyance. F11 fixed this by creating optional set screws you can install on the inside of the machine that forces the expansion cards to stay engaged. I know F13pro has redesigned the switches for removing ex…
If it's what I'm thinking about, they showed it in one of their videos where they compare the old 13 to the Pro. It looked like a latch mechanism that you can operate with one hand but still keeps it secure in place.
Edit: this should be what you want to know - https://youtu.be/GnOpIQJnYWU?t=536