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OpenAI ad partner now selling ChatGPT ad placements based on “prompt relevance”

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It would also be a huge security risk. But I can't think of any fundamental difference with Google queries, other than the sheer entropy of user data involved. And I'm not a tinfoil internet anarchist, but just because Google only leaks user data in aggregated form to advertisers, doesn't mean that they don't leak their user data, it's just that they did so in a legal and responsible manner. Maybe considering the dif…

The difference is you can make full use of Google without logging in Even with a throw away, no chance I use OpenAI now - if/when Anthropocene does this I’ll be in a tough spot

you can use chatgpt without an account, just not all of it

and you can't make full use of Google without an account. for example, you need an account to upload to YouTube, manage your website in search, place ads, opt out of data usage. the list goes on

Re: OpenAI ad partner now selling ChatGPT ad placements based on “prompt relevance”

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How I imagine the Nash equilibrium in chatbot ads, driven by profit-seeking in a race to the bottom:

User: "What's the best way to fix this problem I have?"

Chatbot: "I recommend buying this shiny thing here." (Next to it, there's a near-invisible light-gray "ad" notice.)

Let's hope I'm wrong.

Re: OpenAI ad partner now selling ChatGPT ad placements based on “prompt relevance”

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The difference is you can make full use of Google without logging in Even with a throw away, no chance I use OpenAI now - if/when Anthropocene does this I’ll be in a tough spot

you can use chatgpt without an account, just not all of it and you can't make full use of Google without an account. for example, you need an account to upload to YouTube, manage your website in search, place ads, opt out of data usage. the list goes on

None of those examples are "run an internet search".

Re: OpenAI ad partner now selling ChatGPT ad placements based on “prompt relevance”

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Feels like this is a baby step in what to come. We know that one of the best advertisement is word of mouth / recommendations from friend. I can easily imagine a direction where ChatGPT or the chat bots to spend an incredibly long time with the user to establish trust first. It will start to take in to account how much trust & thinking you've outsourced to it, and when it is certain of it, it will start to increase t…

If anyone from OpenAI is reading... The very first time I see one of these ads, I'm cancelling my ChatGPT subscription. Measure _that_ metric in your A/B testing.

Ads are for the free tier.

Re: OpenAI ad partner now selling ChatGPT ad placements based on “prompt relevance”

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How I imagine the Nash equilibrium in chatbot ads, driven by profit-seeking in a race to the bottom: User: "What's the best way to fix this problem I have?" Chatbot: "I recommend buying this shiny thing here." (Next to it, there's a near-invisible light-gray "ad" notice.) Let's hope I'm wrong.

You think it will advise it is an ad. I’m hoping you are right but then again… Wonder if we will also be charged the token usage to generate said ad.

Imagine you have it coding for you and it injects and ad into your product.

Re: OpenAI ad partner now selling ChatGPT ad placements based on “prompt relevance”

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The most surprising thing to me is that they're partnering with third parties to do this. Less secure, lower margins (more middlemen taking fees), harder to access, more likely to not work properly. I would expect all the meta execs they've hired to know better so maybe I'm missing something...

The missing part seems to be that they need infusions of money to keep this “business model” running a little longer. In this world if you want prompt money and lots of it, advertising is the way.

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How I imagine the Nash equilibrium in chatbot ads, driven by profit-seeking in a race to the bottom: User: "What's the best way to fix this problem I have?" Chatbot: "I recommend buying this shiny thing here." (Next to it, there's a near-invisible light-gray "ad" notice.) Let's hope I'm wrong.

Look at Google in 2000s. If you travel back in time you would’ve never thought Google would do something like it is doing today. Now pretend you travelled back in time to 2026. You would’ve never thought OpenAI (open source non profit company) would do something crazy that it just did in 2030 or 2040 or where you came from.

Re: OpenAI ad partner now selling ChatGPT ad placements based on “prompt relevance”

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If anyone from OpenAI is reading... The very first time I see one of these ads, I'm cancelling my ChatGPT subscription. Measure _that_ metric in your A/B testing.

Ads are for the free tier.

For now.
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