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Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by zeroq »

testfoobar wrote: post #17

Really impressive tech. I don't understand the insurance ramifications of installing and using this system. Comma's website links to a 7 year old reddit thread: https://comma.ai/support#will-my-insurance-cover-my-car-with... As a driver, if in an accident, could someone reasonably assert that you were not paying attention?

  - InsureCo, how may I help you?
  - Hey, I want to ask about installing a self driving module in my car...
  - Sure, you mean Tesla upgrade?
  - No, another one.
  - Another one?
  - Yeah, you remember that kid that hacked Playstation?

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by _345 »

jimmar wrote: post #28

Seeing things like, " New driving model " on their list of latest releases does not inspire a lot of confidence. Yes, the HTML tags are displayed on the page. Some basic quality assurance on the website would help me trust the quality assurance applied to their product offering. https://comma.ai/openpilot

Yeah but... yeah.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by compootr »

jimmar wrote: post #28

Seeing things like, " New driving model " on their list of latest releases does not inspire a lot of confidence. Yes, the HTML tags are displayed on the page. Some basic quality assurance on the website would help me trust the quality assurance applied to their product offering. https://comma.ai/openpilot

I noticed this issue and someone else mentioned it to them too. I think it's cheeky because it's been like that for a while

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by sitharus »

charcircuit wrote: post #26
sitharus wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the moment in every jurisdiction I’m aware of the driver is always considered as “in charge” of the vehicle no matter what assistance functions are being used. It’s the driver’s responsibility to avoid collisions in all cases. If you have a collision and your vehicle is judged at fault by whatever authority does it in your area the you are liable.

What if there is no driver because the car is self driving?

Well that will depend on your local laws, but to my knowledge except for certain authorised pilot programs all cars on the road must have a driver.

Where I live if you are in the driver’s seat no matter if you were actually actively driving you are considered to be the driver. This has been well established here in drink-driving cases, but you’d have to ask a lawyer for your area.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by nashashmi »

> Currently, openpilot performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC). openpilot can accelerate, brake automatically for other vehicles, and steer to follow the road/lane. [1]

[Some of the] Cars that are currently supported already have "smart cruise" and "lane follow". Why then use a third-party self-driving system?

[1] https://comma.ai/openpilot#:~:text=Currently%2C%20openpilot%...

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by mbirth »

ab_testing wrote: post #22
sebmellen wrote: post #2

Comma is my favorite “AI” company. Really incredible piece of tech in a tiny package, and it truly improves your life to have it. I wish it worked with my Mitsubishi Outlander, but just having it on my Corolla is enough. Their supported brand list will definitely factor into my next car buying decision.

How is the experience on the Corolla. How much can it do by itself?

What a coincidence, LTT tested it a few months ago in a Corolla. Here’s the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdmxM-v4KQg

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by Spikeysash »

I've been using comma 2 and now 3, for over 5 years and its my most favorite thing that I own. I would never buy an incompatible car going forward and got my tucson 2024 specifically for use with comma. I did once think I really wanted a tesla but I realized I just wanted self driving. I routinely tell everyone about comma + openpilot and am surprised I've never seen another driver on the road with one. People are still mostly in the stone age with respect to driving. Granted I think you are always solely responsible for your car when behind the wheel and should only treat it as an assistant but it sure does make driving chill.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by digitalPhonix »

sitharus wrote: post #24
testfoobar wrote: post #17

Really impressive tech. I don't understand the insurance ramifications of installing and using this system. Comma's website links to a 7 year old reddit thread: https://comma.ai/support#will-my-insurance-cover-my-car-with... As a driver, if in an accident, could someone reasonably assert that you were not paying attention?

At the moment in every jurisdiction I’m aware of the driver is always considered as “in charge” of the vehicle no matter what assistance functions are being used. It’s the driver’s responsibility to avoid collisions in all cases. If you have a collision and your vehicle is judged at fault by whatever authority does it in your area the you are liable.

Mercedes Drive Pilot (“SAE Level 3”) is certified on some very specific stretches of insterstate in California to not require the driver to be responsible.

https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manuals/drive-pilot

Requirements:

- Stop and go traffic (or less than 40mph?)

- On some specific sections of highway

- Driver doesn’t need to monitor but must be ready to take over with 15(?) seconds of the system requesting

> Mercedes-Benz is assuming liability for any crashes or incidents that occur while the autonomous system is active

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