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Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

testfoobar wrote: post #17

Really impressive tech. I don't understand the insurance ramifications of installing and using this system. Comma's website links to a 7 year old reddit thread: https://comma.ai/support#will-my-insurance-cover-my-car-with... As a driver, if in an accident, could someone reasonably assert that you were not paying attention?

I mean, just like with a Tesla, the driver is responsible for the actions taken by the car, which means you do need to be paying attention, hands on the wheel, ready to take over at all times.

We don't yet have the legal framework to say 'Sue company x, it wasn't my fault!' You get sued, then you have a very uphill battle to turn around and try to sue the company that provided the 'self driving' functionality because companies put all sorts of 'I totally accept liability for using this' in the T&C of their products.

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Post by ab_testing »

sebmellen wrote: post #2

Comma is my favorite “AI” company. Really incredible piece of tech in a tiny package, and it truly improves your life to have it. I wish it worked with my Mitsubishi Outlander, but just having it on my Corolla is enough. Their supported brand list will definitely factor into my next car buying decision.

How is the experience on the Corolla. How much can it do by itself?

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Post by sitharus »

testfoobar wrote: post #17

Really impressive tech. I don't understand the insurance ramifications of installing and using this system. Comma's website links to a 7 year old reddit thread: https://comma.ai/support#will-my-insurance-cover-my-car-with... As a driver, if in an accident, could someone reasonably assert that you were not paying attention?

At the moment in every jurisdiction I’m aware of the driver is always considered as “in charge” of the vehicle no matter what assistance functions are being used. It’s the driver’s responsibility to avoid collisions in all cases.

If you have a collision and your vehicle is judged at fault by whatever authority does it in your area the you are liable.

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Post by smallerize »

hahahahhaah wrote: post #20
sebmellen wrote: post #2

Comma is my favorite “AI” company. Really incredible piece of tech in a tiny package, and it truly improves your life to have it. I wish it worked with my Mitsubishi Outlander, but just having it on my Corolla is enough. Their supported brand list will definitely factor into my next car buying decision.

I like Comma. I like geohot (I wouldn't want to work for him I imagine it is intense) but I like the contrary attitude and also the product as seen as demoed on youtube.

He hasn't been running comma.ai since '22, and even left the board just in November.

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Post by charcircuit »

sitharus wrote: post #24
testfoobar wrote: post #17

Really impressive tech. I don't understand the insurance ramifications of installing and using this system. Comma's website links to a 7 year old reddit thread: https://comma.ai/support#will-my-insurance-cover-my-car-with... As a driver, if in an accident, could someone reasonably assert that you were not paying attention?

At the moment in every jurisdiction I’m aware of the driver is always considered as “in charge” of the vehicle no matter what assistance functions are being used. It’s the driver’s responsibility to avoid collisions in all cases. If you have a collision and your vehicle is judged at fault by whatever authority does it in your area the you are liable.

What if there is no driver because the car is self driving?

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Post by jimmar »

Seeing things like, "New driving model" on their list of latest releases does not inspire a lot of confidence. Yes, the HTML tags are displayed on the page. Some basic quality assurance on the website would help me trust the quality assurance applied to their product offering.

https://comma.ai/openpilot

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Post by gegtik »

charcircuit wrote: post #26
sitharus wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the moment in every jurisdiction I’m aware of the driver is always considered as “in charge” of the vehicle no matter what assistance functions are being used. It’s the driver’s responsibility to avoid collisions in all cases. If you have a collision and your vehicle is judged at fault by whatever authority does it in your area the you are liable.

What if there is no driver because the car is self driving?

I assume the same as if the car owner put a brick on the gas pedal and there was no driver when it had an accident

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Post by billisonline »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #9
Der_Einzige wrote: post #4

The CEO of comma.ai is an absolute class act and is basically the anti-elon musk. Comma is awesome, and more companies should be like them.

I assumed he was a Musk disciple after he took a sabbatical to help with the twitter transition

I assumed that too and wrote him off. I’ve since changed my opinion, especially in light of this blog post: https://geohot.github.io//blog/jekyll/update/2026/01/18/how-...
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