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Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by takluyver »

tresta wrote: post #23
vibrunazo wrote: post #16

One word of advice, don't do the automatic upgrade, do a full reinstall instead. After trying that for the last 5 or so releases. Always thinking that this time they fixed it. I'm not falling for that again. You'll see, as always, some reports of people saying they tried and it worked. But be careful, it's a trap!

I really don't understand why the upgrade seems to be so hit and miss between people. My current laptop has been on the same ubuntu install since (at least) 10.04. I've even upgraded to beta versions a couple of times and the only problem I've ever had was when I upgraded to the 12.10 beta and it ran out of disk space in the middle of the install. But that was recoverable. Of course, this comment might be a trap. The…

Likewise, upgrades have always worked for me. I think I took one computer through about 5 consecutive versions without reinstalling it. Maybe it depends on hardware...

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by takluyver »

rk0567 wrote: post #18
meaty wrote: post #5

Have they turned the Amazon stuff off by default or are they giving an option to do so at install time? If not, I will not be downloading this.

`sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping`

There's now a proper option in the privacy settings to disable remote searches.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by pajju »

pimentel wrote: post #24

"includes Python 3.2.3 as standard" Won't this have any impact on existing python installers, designed to be used with python 2.x?

If its only coming with 3.2.3 it will break many existing tools.(think django)

If you see MAC, it does come with lower versions of python too, so it supports older python projects.(python2.7, python2.5 based and doesn't break the system)

Latest Ubuntu might well come even with lower versions of python too - as many Ubuntu apps and tools itself use the lower versions of python. But the default python will be 3.2.3

To use the right version of python we have to -

Manually install older versions if it doesn't have one.

And do symbolic Linking the installed versions to /usr/bin and set $PATH appropriately for the correct Python version we need. Just use them as python2.7 python2.5 python2.6 while calling your scripts.

Also see virtualenv.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by chrismorgan »

vibrunazo wrote: post #16

One word of advice, don't do the automatic upgrade, do a full reinstall instead. After trying that for the last 5 or so releases. Always thinking that this time they fixed it. I'm not falling for that again. You'll see, as always, some reports of people saying they tried and it worked. But be careful, it's a trap!

My InstallationMedia is 9.10. I had one troublesome update where it only partially completed but it was happy to complete it after a reboot (11.10). Other than that, I believe I have only had one thing function other than as I would like. In the upgrade to 12.04, it hit a point where something I had changed in /etc (turning off AppArmor for Evince, so that I could use a custom hyperlink protocol, which made it easier to work with Lilypond) caused it to stop, awaiting a decision from me on what to do with it. As a result, I got up in the morning and lo: it was only a third of the way through. Not what I had intended.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by gman99 »

meaty wrote: post #22
moystard wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you don't use Firefox as well, as they "force" you to use Google at first?

Yes I do use Firefox and that's a rather silly assertion if you consider the technical implementation. In the case of Firefox, a default search page for Google is included in the Firefox Chrome as is a default search engine. The default page doesn't call home at all until you enter a search i.e. until you use it. The rest of the browser is functional without using this feature, so you can type "duckduckgo.com" withou…

Firefox: Nothing transmitted to Google until you perform a search.

Unity: Nothing transmitted to Amazon until you perform a search

Sure, I'm not agreeing with the default out of the box functionality, but other than the fact that user expectation is that a local search does not transmit information to remote servers (same issue as chrome's omnibox for typing URLs) it is exactly the same. But maybe Canonical should make it explicit what the default does (maybe they do, I don't know)

Install the OS, Click on gear icon (top right), settings, privacy, turn off online results

Point is your specific criticism can be levelled at firefox as well

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by chrismorgan »

fiveliterstang wrote: post #2

Been using it a couple weeks now, it's actually not too bad. Trying to get used to Unity as it's obviously not going anywhere. I'm still not a fan but it is improving.

The first release with Unity, I tried it for several days before giving up. It was just too buggy with the Compiz configuration I wanted/needed for some things; as soon as I touched anything in the configuration or with certain configuration things enabled, it would crash and require a reboot/gdm restart.

The second release I tried again. It almost passed muster, but it was still just too buggy.

The third release I tried again.

I never went back to the GNOME desktop.

I love Unity. It's not perfect. In things related to keyboard shortcuts in particular it's still got a ways to go, but it is good. So much better than the GNOME 2 desktop. (I've never tried GNOME Shell, so I can't comment on it.)

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by regularfry »

digisign wrote: post #13

It's not yet released and ars didn't say it was released, rather: Ars has its hands on 12.10 and we'll be bringing you a full review within the next couple of weeks.

Maybe we are reading a different article:

    Today, Canonical has released version 12.10 of its Ubuntu Linux
    distribution, code-named "Quantal Quetzal" after a ridiculously 
    awesome-looking bird.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by pajju »

What I loved the most - the integration of webapps as native desktop apps. Awesome addition. This changes the whole game. The HUD will be a search bar for that webapp. Mind = Blown!

Worth mentioning, I've used many Linux boxes before, but after using Ubuntu 12.04 from the past 5 months, its the most Productive System I've ever used. And It's only getting better over time.

Many thanks for the team that's behind this change.

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