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Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by chankstein38 »

That's because Samsung's new offerings are trash compared to where we were a few years ago. I have the S24 Ultra and in my opinion it's better than the S25 ultra. The camera, the features, maybe it's better built for AI but I don't want Samsung's garbage AI on my phone. Even the new S-Pen loses features to the old one (one of the main features I used too, the remote shutter).

The Object Eraser feature recently updated to have an "AI Object Eraser" and now a simple removal of a sign in my picture adds an "AI Generated" watermark onto it. They spam me every time I use the regular Object Eraser to try the AI one, it's really not impressive in any way and now adds a watermark even for the simplest modifications.

Definitely all around seems like Samsung is on a decline. I probably won't be buying a Samsung next time I need a phone, though I won't be buying Apple either.

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by gbear605 »

techsystems wrote: post #28

https://counterpointresearch.com/en/insights/global-smartpho... So every quarter this year except the last quarter, Samsung outsold Apple. So they're predicting that Q42025 for Samsung will be miserable sales or Apple will have skyrocketed sales?

The iPhone 17 (released in September) is selling extremely well, and Apple sales tend to be concentrated in Q4 due to the new phone (and the holidays, though those should also affect Samsung).

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by embedding-shape »

chankstein38 wrote: post #31

That's because Samsung's new offerings are trash compared to where we were a few years ago. I have the S24 Ultra and in my opinion it's better than the S25 ultra. The camera, the features, maybe it's better built for AI but I don't want Samsung's garbage AI on my phone. Even the new S-Pen loses features to the old one (one of the main features I used too, the remote shutter). The Object Eraser feature recently update…

> Definitely all around seems like Samsung is on a decline. I probably won't be buying a Samsung next time I need a phone, though I won't be buying Apple either.

Same here, used to have a Samsung, moved to Moto G which was the best phone I had so far, currently on a iPhone 12 Mini, and want none of these phones anymore. I just want something that doesn't get in your way, and actually have some well-thought UX, especially when connected to the car. CarPlay is a whole dumpster-fire of failed UX experiments it feels like, is actively dangerous, and iOS in general have so many hidden patterns I'm still discovering today (guessing they also add new gestures all the time) that it feels like I only understand 20% of the phone's features.

Someone recommended me Sony for Android + higher quality hardware, where the company also doesn't seem hellbent on screwing you over inside the phone OS itself. What do people here with Sony phones think about them?

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by nolist_policy »

tekacs wrote: post #27
nextos wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung has good hardware, but their software is really mediocre, at best. Many of their devices are laggy and slow down further after some updates. This is the case even on high-end devices. Our 12-month-old Galaxy Tab is slower than a 7-year-old Pixel. Hard to understand. Plus, they make really odd tweaks to the UI, such as adding a permanent button overlay that clashes with most hamburger icons in websites and app…

Odd. I've had the Z Fold 5 and now 7 and the last few years' worth of Samsung firmware has been excellent for me. Perhaps they build 'for' their flagships and let devices that perhaps have lower tier chipsets run slowly?

I have the Z Fold 4 (EU) and it performs well to this day. It even got the Android 16 upgrade.

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by dialup_sounds »

gmueckl wrote: post #16

So dark patterns to increase peer pressure and hard vendor lock in work then: exploiting networking effects and social pressure like green vs. blue bubbles, technically unnecessary hard requirements for other devices that are locked into the same garden prison, random compatibility restrictions/omissions in built in apps etc. Apple really is far from innocent. They just pull their customers over the table in such a s…

Weird take. Android is still ~80% of the market.

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by throwfaraway4 »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #34

Ship more don't mean sell more. It means the factory workers screwed more together and they want to sell more. That's all. The market decides who's beating who.

This is the best supply chain in the world. They ship _because_ they're selling.

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by drchickensalad »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #23
throwfaraway4 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe they make better phones?

I got tired of Android after 9 years of being Android only. I just wanted a phone that worked. Apple made said phone. Android feels like your younger cousin's sketchy Windows computer. I remember changing from like 2 different Android phones over a period of 4 years or so, and my amazing megapixel photos looked nowhere near as good as my cousins 5-year-old iPhone photos.

My iPhone friends literally grab my s24 ultra camera when we take pictures at cocktail bars and tell me to send them the picture

Re: Apple to beat Samsung in smartphone shipments for first time in 14 years

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Post by mschuster91 »

nextos wrote: post #9
barbazoo wrote: post #5

Not because Apple made a jump in sales but mostly because Samsung has been on a decade long decline.

Samsung has good hardware, but their software is really mediocre, at best. Many of their devices are laggy and slow down further after some updates. This is the case even on high-end devices. Our 12-month-old Galaxy Tab is slower than a 7-year-old Pixel. Hard to understand. Plus, they make really odd tweaks to the UI, such as adding a permanent button overlay that clashes with most hamburger icons in websites and app…

And on top of that, you can't unlock One UI 8 and above.
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