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Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by kakacik »

estearum wrote: post #20
ModernMech wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.

Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by bdangubic »

hsnewman wrote: post #27

I can't believe they are still selling that abomination. The styling is not the same as their rest of the lineup, which was a major mistake. I personally wouldn't want a car that relies on glue that much.

I like the glue, you can fix all these issues yourself by raiding your kids desk for some school glue :)

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by jordanb »

brk wrote: post #8
ilamont wrote: post #3

The issue stems from the primer applied before gluing the optional light bar to the windshield (no fasteners are used in the attachment of the light bar). Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?

It's not uncommon, particularly for vehicles with composite body panels. Smaller items like door trim, manufacturer logos, are primarily held on with adhesives. Mid-size accessories like add-on spoilers on trunk lids, or other exterior styling pieces are frequently attached with adhesive. A larger component commonly attached with adhesives are the rear fender flares on dually pickups. Very commonly these are built wi…

Using glue in vehicle assembly is very uncommon.

Most plastic body panels are held on with conformal clips. But they couldn't do that with the metal panels of the cyber truck nor did they want visible fasteners so glue is the only option.

Glue isn't ideal because the part has to be clamped in place while the glue cures which is slow, and quality control is tough because you're doing a little chemistry experiment on your assembly line hundreds of times per day.

Normal cars have this problem with paint and quality control with paint is such a big deal that it has its own separate production line just for painting stuff pre or post assembly

Using composite panels is very uncommon in production vehicles and when they are used (for looks) traditional fasteners are used during assembly often with threaded inserts embedded in the composite panel during manufacture

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by AnotherGoodName »

ModernMech wrote: post #14
timenotwasted wrote: post #12

I know Tesla and the various models have their issues but the Cybertruck and the rest of the Tesla models seem like they are made from two completely different companies. Every time I see one of these driving around trim pieces are missing from them which I don't recall seeing from any other brand.

That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.

You do see glimpses of it in the other models. Eg. The removal of the indicator stalk likely saved <$100 (if that!) but it's a non-starter for many buyers. That has to be Musk's doing right?

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by the_sleaze_ »

jordanb wrote: post #25
ModernMech wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.

He was happy enough to be able to spell s3xy with those cars. Maybe they could have come up with something extremely juvenile for him to do while they designed a rivian

Like make the integrated voice-activated AI have a setting to swear at and insult you while driving

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by HPsquared »

potato3732842 wrote: post #18
genter wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windshields themselves are glued into the frame, and have been for years. They are a major part of the structure of the vehicle, as well as an important safety device, and there isn't a problem with them comining loose. Badges are attached with double sided tape, but obviously those are a lot smaller than a light bar.

More like tossed onto the A-pillars with glue. They don't really do "frames" anymore.

The window frame, I guess. Cars definitely still have frames, it's just integrated with the body rather than the old-fashioned ladder frames et al.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by [deleted] »

jordanb wrote: post #28
estearum wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.

His cult is a very specific type of person. The general public finds him repulsive as demonstrated by his time in government. He's a cult leader with surprisingly horrible political instincts

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by fragmede »

jordanb wrote: post #28
estearum wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.

His cult is a very specific type of person. The general public finds him repulsive as demonstrated by his time in government. He's a cult leader with surprisingly horrible political instincts

> as demonstrated by his time in government

Without actually getting into the specific actions he took while in government, I dare say that what he did during that time was material to people's revulsion and that a different version of him who took different actions would have been differently popular.

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