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Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by vel0city »

addaon wrote: post #4
ilamont wrote: post #3

The issue stems from the primer applied before gluing the optional light bar to the windshield (no fasteners are used in the attachment of the light bar). Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?

Depends on the industry. For car companies, no. But as Tesla reminds us constantly, they're not a car company, they're a robotics / AI company. Those generally focus less on how to build cars.

Tons of cars made by companies other than Tesla have some parts attached by adhesives. Lots of decorative trim pieces and reflectors may be attached with adhesives instead of screws. Its not like there are a lot of screws involved in attaching windshields. There have been other companies with recalls related to adhesive failures, but it seems Tesla has adhesive failures far more frequently than others and seems to use adhesives for a lot more of their body parts.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by bob1029 »

Looking at the actual service manual, there appear to be no fewer than 10 warnings related to the use of the primer alone. There is also a separate step involving cleaning with IPA. This procedure seems like it belongs in a chemistry lab more than a car shop. I can't imagine the average mechanic not fucking this up in some important way.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by blinkingled »

> Tesla’s fix will involve an additional redundancy to keep the lightbar affixed to the windshield, should the glue fail.

Good news - it only affects 6000 vehicles with the optional lightbar which is dealer installed. Bad news - Tesla finds it ok to let its dealers do glued lightbar installations and can't really fix the glue failing part so they are adding redundancy.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by [deleted] »

timenotwasted wrote: post #12

I know Tesla and the various models have their issues but the Cybertruck and the rest of the Tesla models seem like they are made from two completely different companies. Every time I see one of these driving around trim pieces are missing from them which I don't recall seeing from any other brand.

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by jordanb »

ModernMech wrote: post #14
timenotwasted wrote: post #12

I know Tesla and the various models have their issues but the Cybertruck and the rest of the Tesla models seem like they are made from two completely different companies. Every time I see one of these driving around trim pieces are missing from them which I don't recall seeing from any other brand.

That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.

He was happy enough to be able to spell s3xy with those cars. Maybe they could have come up with something extremely juvenile for him to do while they designed a rivian

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by baxtr »

estearum wrote: post #20
ModernMech wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.

Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.

"No idea" doesn’t sound right.

I’d say he thinks he has many superpowers, but maybe in reality just has one.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by jordanb »

estearum wrote: post #20
ModernMech wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.

Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.

His cult is a very specific type of person. The general public finds him repulsive as demonstrated by his time in government.

He's a cult leader with surprisingly horrible political instincts

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by guitarbill »

hamdingers wrote: post #6
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #2

Even presuming pieces weren't falling off , every time I see one of these my first thought is how did this pass safety standards (e.g. the sharp corners/blades/edges; pedestrian-strike setups). Now add on flying corners/blades/edges ... even less enthused. ---- I finally drove in a Rivian — and while I prefer the hybrid drivetrains — it was exceptionally nice. As an American, I can't wait for BYD to offer test drives…

> how did this pass safety standards In the US, the safety standards consider only the occupants of the car. The safety of pedestrians, cyclists, and occupants of other cars are not considered. This was looking like it would change but with the current administration I doubt it. The Cybertruck is not legal in Europe and anywhere else with actual safety standards.

Downvote or not, it's true:

> NHTSA conducts frontal, side and rollover tests because these types account for the majority of crashes on America's roadways.

> IIHS tests evaluate two aspects of safety: crashworthiness — how well a vehicle protects its occupants in a crash — and crash avoidance and mitigation — technology that can prevent a crash or lessen its severity.

> As well as assessing how well cars protect their occupants, Euro NCAP tests how well they protect those vulnerable road users – pedestrians and cyclists – with whom they might collide.

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